07-16-2022, 09:00 AMCrunk Wrote:

07-16-2022, 07:44 AMRomanesEuntDomus Wrote: People can still just play FHM regularly or even test stuff in there on the side as long as they don't use the SHL file, so there are still plenty of ways to play around with the engine

Right, here is where we are getting our wires crossed, I think.

At the time of the ban, I asked a HO member specifically about running the kind of tests you are talking about, ones that do not include the league file. I was told this was not legal.

The entire OP is based on this belief - that playing around with the engine to find things out constitutes sim testing and as such is a bannable offence.

It depends on the specifics and where we draw the line between looking for good tactics (which you can do in every regular singleplayer NHL season) and actually trying to break the game by creating your own kinds of files, decompiling or bulk testing specific tactics/builds. There obviously should be a place for the former but not for the latter in my opinion. You are right though that it is tough to enforce either way which is why I'd be hoping that we as a community can be better than that and maybe just... stop looking for exploits for ones and stop trying to break the game that this league relies on? Is that really too much to ask? There are likely gonna be grey areas between what is banned and what isn't and the best course of action for all of us would be if people just didn't try to abuse those grey areas and try to skirt the rules constantly.

It's probably a naive thought but that's why I'm so adamant here not just in defending the test simming ban, but in pushing back against the general mindset behind it that is all about min-maxing, breaking things and maximizing your own selfish gains over the common good.