07-16-2022, 09:43 AMRomanesEuntDomus Wrote: It depends on the specifics and where we draw the line between looking for good tactics (which you can do in every regular singleplayer NHL season) and actually trying to break the game by creating your own kinds of files, decompiling or bulk testing specific tactics/builds. There obviously should be a place for the former but not for the latter in my opinion.

But this is exactly the point of the OP. I am openly questioning where the line has been drawn, as I think the definition of sim testing has been stretched way too far, when you are outlawing the ability to gain incredibly general sim knowledge by editing an attribute on a non-SHL player in a non-SHL file and looking at the results.

Even you appeared to assume that would be allowed. I was told by an HO member it is not. Does that not seem to be going too far?

07-16-2022, 09:43 AMRomanesEuntDomus Wrote: . You are right though that it is tough to enforce either way which is why I'd be hoping that we as a community can be better than that and maybe just... stop looking for exploits for ones and stop trying to break the game that this league relies on? Is that really too much to ask? There are likely gonna be grey areas between what is banned and what isn't and the best course of action for all of us would be if people just didn't try to abuse those grey areas and try to skirt the rules constantly.

To reiterate here, I am not advocating for a return to full scale test simming. This article led to a conversation with a GM who was telling me about their 5-person sim team and all the time it was consuming. That is completely ridiculous - way worse than I thought it would be - and absolutely justifies the sim file being kept under lock and key.

I'm in favour of complete sim file secrecy to combat this - teams having no way to tell what strats other teams are running, no ability to sim using it, literally 0 access to the file, ever.

But as things stand, a particularly vague rule is banning us from finding literally anything out about the sim engine.