So looking up the most recent infraction, one can find that the punishment levied to sfp for not paying an inactive (granted multiple instances) receives a harsher punishment than this.

I remember bringing up no contract payments of inactive players before and it was deemed acceptable because the players were inactive, as long as they were counted on the budget it was fine.

I guess I’ve decided I’m really not ok with this outcome, and after sleeping on it and feeling the same and looking at hamilton trade out of any punishment they were given I’m going to keep harping on the fact we need a fundamental change to the punishment / appeal process.

The trade is so funny too because they got a 1st and a second for a player they got to keep, and the second they lost is FURTHER OUT THAN THE SECOND THEY GOT BACK WTF and a first on top of that. So fucked.

I thought the whole thing was "oh no it would be bad for the player to be separated from the team that drafted them, think of the user experience!" And then they trade them a day later

This shit right here. It's a fucken laugh.

@DrunkenTeddy sell me site

You can have it for free, I assure you it's got negative value.

Luc Blouin || RD || Philly Forge || PEAK TPE 2011
Age: 27
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 225 lbs
Number: 42
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Career Stats:
S56 VAN(Jr) GP: 4 G: 0 A: 0 P: 0 +/-: +2 PIM: 0 HIT: 3
S57 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 6 A: 21 P: 27 +/-: -6 PIM: 28 HIT: 37
S58 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 6 A: 24 P: 30 +/-: +30 PIM: 30 HIT: 16
S59 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 8 A: 25 P: 33 +/-: +19 PIM: 18 HIT: 52
S60 DET/VAN(Jr) GP: 66 G: 9 A: 26 P: 35 +/-: +25 PIM: 14 HIT: 46
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Transactions:
S56: Signed as a Draftee Free Agent by the Vancouver Whalers
S57: Drafted 2nd Overall by the Detroit Falcons
S58: Drafted 1st Overall by the Tampa Bay Barracuda
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Awards:
S56: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S57: WJC Silver Metal (Team Sweden)
S59: Zach Miller Trophy (Most Dedicated SMJHL)
S59: Alexis Metzler Trophy (Best Defensive Defenseman SMJHL)
S59: WJC Bronze Medal (Team World)


Robert Phelps || C || Hamilton Steelhawks || Retired
Age: Old
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 210 lbs
Number: 52
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Career Stats:
S34 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 10 A: 22 P: 32 +/-: -17 PIM: 29 HIT: 63
S35 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 11 A: 28 P: 39 +/-: 20 PIM: 39 HIT: 76
S36 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 11 A: 26 P: 37 +/-: -3 PIM: 59 HIT: 85
S37 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 26 P: 44 +/-: -7 PIM: 29 HIT: 36
S38 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 30 P: 44 +/-: 7 PIM: 0 HIT: 17
S39 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 27 P: 45 +/-: 16 PIM: 40 HIT: 27
S40 HAM GP: 50 G: 10 A: 33 P: 43 +/-: 9 PIM: 10 HIT: 49
S41 HAM GP: 50 G: 22 A: 36 P: 58 +/-: 15 PIM: 19 HIT: 62
S42 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 28 P: 42 +/-: 8 PIM: 34 HIT: 100
S43 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 29 P: 52 +/-: 3 PIM: 50 HIT: 96
S44 HAM GP: 50 G: 16 A: 30 P: 46 +/-: -7 PIM: 14 HIT: 73
S45 HAM GP: 50 G: 21 A: 27 P: 48 +/-: 5 PIM: 24 HIT: 140
S46 HAM GP: 50 G: 21 A: 32 P: 53 +/-: 16 PIM: 33 HIT: 159
S47 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 21 P: 44 +/-: 2 PIM: 30 HIT: 114
S48 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 27 P: 45 +/-: -7 PIM: 34 HIT: 159
S49 HAM GP: 50 G: 19 A: 32 P: 51 +/-: -2 PIM: 53 HIT: 155
S50 HAM GP: 50 G: 20 A: 35 P: 55 +/-: 10 PIM: 14 HIT: 88
S51 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 37 P: 60 +/-: 13 PIM: 50 HIT: 86
S52 HAM GP: 50 G: 17 A: 32 P: 49 +/-: 18 PIM: 27 HIT: 56
S53 HAM GP: 50 G: 25 A: 37 P: 62 +/-: 37 PIM: 26 HIT: 47
S54 HAM GP: 50 G: 33 A: 32 P: 65 +/-: 35 PIM: 12 HIT: 60
S55 HAM GP: 50 G: 22 A: 21 P: 43 +/-: 25 PIM: 31 HIT: 26
S56 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 25 P: 39 +/-: 35 PIM: 4 HIT: 36
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Transactions:
S34: Drafted 1st in the SMJHL Draft by Vancouver Whalers
S34: Awarded the position of Alternate Captain for VAN
S35: Drafted 1st in the SHL Draft by Hamilton Steelhawks
S38: Awarded the position of Alternate Captain for HAM
S39: Awarded the position of Captain for HAM
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Awards:
S34: Zach Milller Trophy (Most Dedicated SMJHL)
S35: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S35: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S37: Ryan Jesster Trophy (SHL Rookie of the Year)
S37: Rookie Team All-Star
S38: IIHF Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S39: President's Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S39: IIHF Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S41: Damien Littleton Award (Most Dedicated SHL)
S42: President's Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S42: IIHF Silver Medal (Team Canada)
S50: IIHF Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S50: 2nd Team All-Star
S51: 2nd Team All-Star
S51: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S51: Challenge Cup Champion (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S53: 2nd Team All-Star
S53: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S53: Challenge Cup Champion (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S54: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S54: IIHF Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S54: 3rd Team All-Star


Teddy Phelps || Former GM || Hamilton / Vancouver / Canada
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Transactions:
S35: Hired as Adviser for the Vancouver Whalers
S35: Hired as Federation Head of Team Canada
S36: Hired as Co-GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S37: Hired as GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S40: Stepped down as Head of Team Canada
S42: Stepped down as GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S42: Hired as GM of the Hamilton Steelhawks
S45: Stepped down as GM of the Hamilton Steelhawks
------------------------------------------------------------
Awards:
S35: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S35: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S38: Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S39: Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S39: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S41: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S41: Mathias Chouinard Award (Top SMJHL GM)
S42: Lance Uppercut Award (Top SHL GM)

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So looking up the most recent infraction, one can find that the punishment levied to sfp for not paying an inactive (granted multiple instances) receives a harsher punishment than this.

I remember bringing up no contract payments of inactive players before and it was deemed acceptable because the players were inactive, as long as they were counted on the budget it was fine.

I guess I’ve decided I’m really not ok with this outcome, and after sleeping on it and feeling the same and looking at hamilton trade out of any punishment they were given I’m going to keep harping on the fact we need a fundamental change to the punishment / appeal process.

The trade is so funny too because they got a 1st and a second for a player they got to keep, and the second they lost is FURTHER OUT THAN THE SECOND THEY GOT BACK WTF and a first on top of that. So fucked.

I thought the whole thing was "oh no it would be bad for the player to be separated from the team that drafted them, think of the user experience!" And then they trade them a day later

I know you know this and you're just trying to form another weird narrative here, but we had to become cap compliant due to the cap fine levied on this punishment. Didn't really have another option here.

Rotticus Scott||LW||4x Cup Winner||S54||2k+ TPE
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SMJHL Career Stats
SMJHL Career Regular Season G: 35, A: 81, P: 116 PPG: .59
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SMJHL Playoff Stats
SMJHL Career Post-Season GP: 61 G: 17, A: 24, P: 38 PPG: .62

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SMJHL Achievements
3x Conference Champion.
2x President's Trophy Winner
WJC 2x Gold, Silver medal
4-Star Cup Champion
S56 Ronan O'Keefe award winner (Top Playoff Scorer)
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SHL Statistics
S57: G: 25 A: 34 P: 59
S58: G: 9 A: 26 P: 35
S59: G: 24 A: 40 P: 64
S60: G: 28 A: 41 P: *69*
S61: G: 24 A: 40 P: 64
S62: G: 34 A: 49 P: 83
S63: G: 21 A: 42 P: 62
S64: G: 40 A: 26 P: 66
Totals: G:205 A: 297 P: 502 (.95 PPG)
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SHL Achievements
Ryan Jesster Rookie of the Year S57
President's Trophy S57. S60
Challenge Cup Winner S56, S58, S61, S63
IIHF Gold Medal S57 (as GM), S58 as player
Quad Gold Club

 
Tommi Koivu || LD || S66 || S69 IIHF Gold || 1900+ TPE

The trade is so funny too because they got a 1st and a second for a player they got to keep, and the second they lost is FURTHER OUT THAN THE SECOND THEY GOT BACK WTF and a first on top of that. So fucked.

I thought the whole thing was "oh no it would be bad for the player to be separated from the team that drafted them, think of the user experience!" And then they trade them a day later

I know you know this and you're just trying to form another weird narrative here, but we had to become cap compliant due to the cap fine levied on this punishment. Didn't really have another option here.

There definitely was talk in the signing thread about players being forced away from the team that drafted them and how that was a negative experience. Probably applies the least to nour but still something notable

Aleister Cain - S42-S57
HOF GOALIE- CLASS OF S60- SECOND BALLOT
S54 CHALLENGE CUP
S54 RAZOV

Ville Kurri - S57-S70
BEST SMJHL DEFENSIVE FORWARD S60
That's pretty much it

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pretty angry i didn't get post 420... maybe more angry about that than the punishment at this point

L

Thanks to @karey and @JSS for the sigs!

Teddy Cuddles  |  RW  | Edmonton Blizzard | Hall of Fame
Player Type : Two Way Forward
Height: 6'5" | Weight: 220 lbs | Age: 19
Number: 79
Birthplace: Providence, Rhode Island, USA
--------------------------------------------------------------
Regular Season Stats :
S35 | STL | GP:28 | G:2 | A:1 | P:3 | PIMs:5 | HIT:7 | Shots:25 | +/-:-4
S36 | STL | GP:50 | G:10 | A:10 | P:20 | PIMs:5 | HIT:97 | Shots:88 | +/-:-1
S37 | STL | GP:50 | G:13 | A:27 | P:40 | PIMs:56 | HIT:120| Shots:146 | +/-:+10
S38 | EDM | GP:50 | G:6 | A:7 | P:13 | PIMs:62 | HIT:114 | Shots:83 | +/-:-18
S39 | EDM | GP:50 | G:7 | A:15 | P:22 | PIMs:36 | HIT:161 | Shots:78 | +/-:-10
S40 | EDM | GP:50 | G:13 | A:29 | P:42 | PIMs:46 | HIT:197 | Shots:109 | +/-:+7
S41 | EDM | GP:50 | G:17 | A:17 | P:34 | PIMs:49 | HIT:143 | Shots:121 | +/-:-4
S42 | EDM | GP:50 | G:17 | A:24 | P:41 | PIMs:52 | HIT:135 | Shots:132 | +/-:+9
S43 | EDM | GP:50 | G:14 | A:23 | P:37 | PIMs:24 | HIT:121 | Shots:121 | +/-:-2
S44 | EDM | GP:50 | G:21 | A:32 | P:53 | PIMs:28 | HIT:131 | Shots:214 | +/-:+19
S45 | EDM | GP:50 | G:13 | A:24 | P:37 | PIMs:51 | HIT:170 | Shots:185 | +/-:+9
S46 | EDM | GP:50 | G:29 | A:31 | P:60 | PIMs:53 | HIT:152 | Shots:195 | +/-:+9
S47 | EDM | GP:50 | G:17 | A:33 | P:50 | PIMs:46 | HIT:182 | Shots:199 | +/-:+8
S48 | EDM | GP:50 | G:22 | A:23 | P:45 | PIMs:26 | HIT:182 | Shots:210 | +/-:+7
S49 | EDM | GP:50 | G:20 | A:25 | P:45 | PIMs:36 | HIT:149 | Shots:208 | +/-:+1
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Post Season Stats :
S35 | STL | GP:7 | G:0 | A:0 | P:0 | PIMs:0 | HIT:2 | Shots:4 | +/-:+1
S36 | STL | GP:6 | G:1 | A:1 | P:2 | PIMs:7 | HIT:14 | Shots:12 | +/-:+3
S37 | STL | GP:13 | G:4 | A:5 | P:9 | PIMs:26 | HIT:26 | Shots:30 | +/-:+7
S38 | EDM | Did not qualify
S39 | EDM | GP:7 | G:3 | A:3 | P:6 | PIMs:4 | HIT:18 | Shots:10 | +/-:+1
S40 | EDM | GP:7 | G:1 | A:6 | P:7 | PIMs:4 | HIT:33 | Shots:15 | +/-:+2
S41 | EDM | GP:7 | G:2 | A:3 | P:5 | PIMs:12 | HIT:15 | Shots:15 | +/-:+1
S42 | EDM | GP:11 | G:5 | A:8 | P:13 | PIMs:10 | HIT:25 | Shots:38 | +/-:+1
S43 | EDM | Did not Qualify
S44 | EDM | GP:11 | G:4 | A:7 | P:11 | PIMs:12 | HIT:31 | Shots:42 | +/-:+3
S45 | EDM | GP:18 | G:7 | A:11 | P:18 | PIMs:24 | HIT:56 | Shots:68 | +/-:+8
S46 | EDM | GP:4 | G:0 | A:0 | P:0 | PIMs:2 | HIT:9 | Shots:11 | +/-:-5
S47 | EDM | GP:6 | G:3 | A:2 | P:5 | PIMs:6 | HIT:24 | Shots:25 | +/-:+2
S48 | EDM | GP:5 | G:2 | A:2 | P:4 | PIMs:0 | HIT:11 | Shots:19 | +/-:0
S49 | EDM | GP:23 | G:7 | A:17 | P:24 | PIMs:18 | HIT:76 | Shots:89 | +/-:-2
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Awards and Achievements:
S37 | STL Kanye Summers Award for Regular Season Team MVP
S37 | STL Bradley Wingels Award for Best Forward
S40 | Gold Medal Winner
S40 | Aidan Richan Trophy Winner
S44 | Became 4th player in Edmonton Blizzard History to reach 1000 Hits
S45 | Challenge Cup Champion
S45 | Anton Razov Trophy for Playoff MVP
S45 | Silver Medal Winner
S46 | 1st Team All Star
S46 | Sarmad Kahn Nominee
S46 | Jef Darr Nominee
S47 | Jef Darr Nominee
S49 | Challenge Cup Champion
S49 | Anton Razov Nominee
--------------------------------------------------------------
Draft/Signing/Trade History:
S35 | Signed to STL
S36 | Drafted to Calgary 26th overall
S36 | Traded to Edmonton


Ambacas “Femboy Hooters” Cuddles | D | Tampa Bay Barracuda

Former USA Fed Head, Carolina Kraken Co-GM, Tampa Bay Barracuda GM

I know you know this and you're just trying to form another weird narrative here, but we had to become cap compliant due to the cap fine levied on this punishment. Didn't really have another option here.

There definitely was talk in the signing thread about players being forced away from the team that drafted them and how that was a negative experience. Probably applies the least to nour but still something notable

Not going to discuss specifics of the deal and everything here, but I'm glad I could clarify the situation.

Rotticus Scott||LW||4x Cup Winner||S54||2k+ TPE
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SMJHL Career Stats
SMJHL Career Regular Season G: 35, A: 81, P: 116 PPG: .59
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SMJHL Playoff Stats
SMJHL Career Post-Season GP: 61 G: 17, A: 24, P: 38 PPG: .62

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SMJHL Achievements
3x Conference Champion.
2x President's Trophy Winner
WJC 2x Gold, Silver medal
4-Star Cup Champion
S56 Ronan O'Keefe award winner (Top Playoff Scorer)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SHL Statistics
S57: G: 25 A: 34 P: 59
S58: G: 9 A: 26 P: 35
S59: G: 24 A: 40 P: 64
S60: G: 28 A: 41 P: *69*
S61: G: 24 A: 40 P: 64
S62: G: 34 A: 49 P: 83
S63: G: 21 A: 42 P: 62
S64: G: 40 A: 26 P: 66
Totals: G:205 A: 297 P: 502 (.95 PPG)
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SHL Achievements
Ryan Jesster Rookie of the Year S57
President's Trophy S57. S60
Challenge Cup Winner S56, S58, S61, S63
IIHF Gold Medal S57 (as GM), S58 as player
Quad Gold Club

 
Tommi Koivu || LD || S66 || S69 IIHF Gold || 1900+ TPE

pretty angry i didn't get post 420... maybe more angry about that than the punishment at this point

L

Who's L is that? I need a label

Aleister Cain - S42-S57
HOF GOALIE- CLASS OF S60- SECOND BALLOT
S54 CHALLENGE CUP
S54 RAZOV

Ville Kurri - S57-S70
BEST SMJHL DEFENSIVE FORWARD S60
That's pretty much it

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no we dont. This isn't how law works lol.

> Your honor, we have no evidence of wrongdoing, but you'll just have to trust us about this one

Things we can't prove aren't evidence. They are hearsay.

You have now made tampering legal, what do we do now?

I know! We screenshot it, send it to the authorities and then hope master gives us an extra piece of cheese with our dinner tonight.

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@DrunkenTeddy sell me site

You can have it for free, I assure you it's got negative value.

People really have no idea how much work/money you have and do put into this. Anyone who thinks the owners don't have this league's best interest at heart have a really warped perception of the group.

Cal Juice
Tomas Zadina
Brady McIntyre

I’m just here so I don’t get fined

You can have it for free, I assure you it's got negative value.

People really have no idea how much work/money you have and do put into this. Anyone who thinks the owners don't have this league's best interest at heart have a really warped perception of the group.

This is going to shock you but it is possible for people to both appreciate all the time/money that’s been put into the site as well as think this punishment was handled extremely poorly. One doesn’t negate the other.

People really have no idea how much work/money you have and do put into this. Anyone who thinks the owners don't have this league's best interest at heart have a really warped perception of the group.

This is going to shock you but it is possible for people to both appreciate all the time/money that’s been put into the site as well as think this punishment was handled extremely poorly. One doesn’t negate the other.

Jimmy stop making sense of things, this is a nonsense only league

Nevermind, shouldn't have said anything

Jimmy Larkin-Conway | LW | Seattle Argonauts
=============Transactions==============
- Drafted 19th overall by Nevada (S59)
- Drafted 27th overall by Baltimore (S60)
- Traded to Winnipeg Aurora (S63)
- Traded to Toronto North Stars (S64)
- Re-signed with Toronto North Stars (S65)
- Re-signed with Toronto North Stars (S68,etc.)
- Signed with Seattle Argonauts (S76)
================Trophies================
- Aidan Richan Award (S65)


Kit Kirkstone | G | Retired



Charlie Schieck | D | Retired



Jeff Kirkstone | G | Retired | Former GM

People really have no idea how much work/money you have and do put into this. Anyone who thinks the owners don't have this league's best interest at heart have a really warped perception of the group.

This is going to shock you but it is possible for people to both appreciate all the time/money that’s been put into the site as well as think this punishment was handled extremely poorly. One doesn’t negate the other.

Cal Juice
Tomas Zadina
Brady McIntyre

People really have no idea how much work/money you have and do put into this. Anyone who thinks the owners don't have this league's best interest at heart have a really warped perception of the group.

This is going to shock you but it is possible for people to both appreciate all the time/money that’s been put into the site as well as think this punishment was handled extremely poorly. One doesn’t negate the other.

Hey Sloth, good take!

To clarify, I am not(!) shocked by this revelation. I am, in fact, and this may surprise you, part of that group you were describing.