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***sköldpaddor*** · 12-31-2022, 10:37 PM

I would like to yet again reiterate that the things that happened to cause this are not a secret. It is not some top secret information that we are keeping from everyone, we are just not going to put hate speech on this site. If you want to know, I’ll tell you. That goes for anybody. But I’m not going to blast a bunch of bigoted bullshit out there for somebody who is the subject of the hate speech to stumble across just because the drama mobs want to be able to meme on it.

We are not re-broadcasting hate speech publicly on the site. Full stop.

spooked · 12-31-2022, 10:53 PM

Sorry, didn't realize a small question is a crime

PremierBromanov · 12-31-2022, 10:54 PM

12-29-2022, 04:19 PMlespoils Wrote: Damn am I going to have to start being the bad guy just so we can get a bit of drama out of these punishments? Do we have to bring Izzy back? What the hell am I supposed to do when everyone agrees on a punishment?

I will take the ring to mordor

***Gwdjohnson*** · 12-31-2022, 11:03 PM

12-31-2022, 10:31 PMluke Wrote:
12-30-2022, 08:49 PMspooked Wrote: I don't see a reason for the GM group to not be informed on conduct punishments. People on here who are in the GM roles can already ask around and find it out, but we arguably have an even more direct influence on member conduct in LRs, don't really want to have to play telephone when these happen.

Just scout players lol. It’s not that hard. And ask around and find out which users are bad for your team. Being apart of having a good team is finding those players

Ironic coming from the GM who drafted @jeffie43

SecondSucks22 · 12-31-2022, 11:17 PM

12-31-2022, 10:09 AMItsFrenchie Wrote:
12-31-2022, 12:02 AMspooked Wrote: He was commenting about my request for GMs to be informed, I was not speaking about the information itself, only my request to be informed as a GM group. Sorry for not being clear.

The thing to me at least about not proceeding on a case by case basis is that as soon as you extend who knows the specifics of the ban, you also open the door to it spreading like wildfire. Let's not lie to ourselves in saying that if ALL GM's know about it more than is said in this post, and some may not even have a vested interest in the player, then there is a possibility that all it ends up doing is exactly what HO wants to prevent : spreading details about it.

I don't want to pile on, but I agree where if you're legitimitely interested, DM HO members.

Imagine asking GM's to do their due diligence, these are busy people with scouting to ignore

scudmuffin19 · 12-31-2022, 11:43 PM

12-30-2022, 08:13 PMspooked Wrote:
12-30-2022, 07:28 PMsköldpaddor Wrote: I know this is a joke but I do want to stress that we do not want to get in the habit of putting screenshots of hate speech/other potentially harmful rhetoric out there even for the purpose of evidence. I’m happy to discuss things if people have questions individually (a lot of the stuff in question here is public anyway), but there’s some stuff we’d rather not amplify for people to unwittingly stumble across.

Honest question, how can we ask GMs in this league to draft a person who was banned like this without being able to see what the cause of the ban was? Seems like basically we are being told to either completely avoid anyone who gets a ban like this out of caution, or simply pray it isn't THAT bad. You might as well just perma Zap in my perspective cause I can't draft someone who got a ban like this without knowing what the ban was for.

I know I could probably ask around in DMs to get the information, but we shouldn't have to do that tbh.

Y'know if you really wanted the information you could've asked, but we just jump to conclusions that HO is being secretive and shady because why not. If you hate the current HO just say it plainly instead of hiding it behind a vague opinion no one asked for. Here, I'll give you the sentence to make it easier for you to say next time. "I hate HO and I ran things better." There. There's your statement next time you feel you have an opinion. Or you can keep getting cooked in the replies.

***Caleb*** · 01-01-2023, 12:00 AM

I just want to say I was here for this.

G2019 · 01-01-2023, 01:26 AM

Thread team me @Sburbine

***RAmenAmen*** · 01-01-2023, 01:33 AM

Does the thread team have room for a goalie?

***Caleb*** · 01-01-2023, 01:45 AM

01-01-2023, 01:33 AMRAmenAmen Wrote: Does the thread team have room for a goalie?

I would hope so, make goalies matter!

***notorioustig*** · 01-01-2023, 01:48 AM

Using this active thread to bump the SEA GM opening! https://simulationhockey.com/showthread.php?tid=128217

You guys can't miss me until I'm gone so come take over a b2b winner

***Caleb*** · 01-01-2023, 02:34 AM

01-01-2023, 01:48 AMnotorioustig Wrote: Using this active thread to bump the SEA GM opening! https://simulationhockey.com/showthread.php?tid=128217

You guys can't miss me until I'm gone so come take over a b2b winner

LOL, respect.

***aleks*** · 01-01-2023, 03:22 AM

01-01-2023, 01:48 AMnotorioustig Wrote: Using this active thread to bump the SEA GM opening! https://simulationhockey.com/showthread.php?tid=128217

You guys can't miss me until I'm gone so come take over a b2b winner

cheshnopsh roathing om opa fiya

Rotti · 01-01-2023, 03:31 AM

01-01-2023, 03:22 AMdmuda11 Wrote:
01-01-2023, 01:48 AMnotorioustig Wrote: Using this active thread to bump the SEA GM opening! https://simulationhockey.com/showthread.php?tid=128217

You guys can't miss me until I'm gone so come take over a b2b winner
cheshnopsh roathing om opa fiya

good one dmuda

spooked · 01-01-2023, 12:46 PM

12-31-2022, 11:43 PMscudmuffin19 Wrote:
12-30-2022, 08:13 PMspooked Wrote: Honest question, how can we ask GMs in this league to draft a person who was banned like this without being able to see what the cause of the ban was? Seems like basically we are being told to either completely avoid anyone who gets a ban like this out of caution, or simply pray it isn't THAT bad. You might as well just perma Zap in my perspective cause I can't draft someone who got a ban like this without knowing what the ban was for.

I know I could probably ask around in DMs to get the information, but we shouldn't have to do that tbh.
Y'know if you really wanted the information you could've asked, but we just jump to conclusions that HO is being secretive and shady because why not. If you hate the current HO just say it plainly instead of hiding it behind a vague opinion no one asked for. Here, I'll give you the sentence to make it easier for you to say next time. "I hate HO and I ran things better." There. There's your statement next time you feel you have an opinion. Or you can keep getting cooked in the replies.

That isn't how I feel at all, nor is that even close to what I said. I also don't know you much at all, so where is this coming from?

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