S75 PT#5: Who you gonna call?

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S75 PT#5: Who you gonna call? Due: Sunday, March 17th @ 11:59 PM PST

hockeyiscool
SHL GM
SHL GM

#211

03-17-2024, 11:21 PM

Shawn Pawn has foregone having an agent, since he was a young lad his mother always had a few rules to live by. Some of them being, "Insurance at car dealerships are a scam" and "Ain't no way you're gonna be paying a man five to twenty percent of your hard earned money, that is worse than the mob". Due to being raised this way, Shawn Pawn represents himself on the contract side of things and knows to get the money paid in guaranteed money. One of the things that has been difficult for Shawn is that he is uncertain if he is getting called up from the Queen City Citadelles. After being the regular season champs in the SMJHL. The Queen City Citadelles found themselves with being eliminated in the quarterfinals against the Colorado Raptors. This abrupt exit plus expansion left Shawn Pawn filled with uncertainty of what to do next. Was he taking the step to the next level and like most elderly people in canada making the move down to florida to assimilate with their new community or were they staying in Canada to make another run at the cup?

dogwoodmaple
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#212

03-17-2024, 11:22 PM

Affiliate PT

charlieconway
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Posting Freak

#213

03-17-2024, 11:25 PM

Quote:Written Task: Offseason is good time to call your agent to make sure you both are on same page about your players career and any potential moves or upcoming contract negotiations that could be done during next season(s).

Agent could be someone who has been with your player since the beginning, relative or a old friend, or maybe a professional who oversees the finances of 20 or so other SHL players (while siphoning money from them all to buy more cards). They might only be hired for the contract negotiations or they might be just a call away to help your player with any problem they can think of.

Who is your player’s agent and what they do (and have done) for your player? If your player doesn't have an agent tell us why they don't.

My player doesn't have an agent.

Instead, he handles all contract negotiations himself.

The reason for this is that when he was just starting out in junior, he had a bad experience where an agent used the negotiation opportunity to negotiate personal benefits for the agent and not the player. Even though Jae-ik wanted assurances as to position and ice time, he got nothing of the sort. Instead, the agent got comped tickets to all the games for him and his family, and free parking near the arena, as well as free food and swag every home game.

Jae-ik has been rethinking this approach, however, as it's starting to become burdensome to handle the off-ice stuff himself at the same time as he's training and getting to know his new teammates. It's tough enough to be an SHLer, given the time commitments, but add to that off ice procurement, training, and making time for personal relationships, and it's a wonder he managed to hold down a roster spot this past season.

eddiesnothere
SHL GM
SHL GM

#214

03-17-2024, 11:29 PM

Hoang catches his agent late in the morning following the end of the conference finals, and as he is prone to do, he starts the conversation by disarming the conversation, making it clear that he doesn’t want to go anywhere, he’s fine in Minnesota and he doesn’t want to discuss his contract until management approaches, be him or his agent. Borys Franciszek appreciates the brevity and clarity Hoang brings to the toughest conversations. Hoang, for his part, knows that some people can work too hard on someone’s behalf without even understanding the boundaries one might be comfortable with. If Borys spends more time worrying about other clients, when Hoang needs him, it will be his main and present focus. For now, it is Hoang’s time to rest, relax, and worry about being in tip top shape for next season. Something tells him this campaign will be more important than the others.

Gordon Bombay
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#215

03-17-2024, 11:42 PM

pbe pt

JNH
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S35 Challenge Cup Champion || Still Drunk

#216

03-17-2024, 11:53 PM

My agent is the old general manager of the Newfoundland Berserkers... well I assume back then they were called the Lethbridge Lions - none other than the artist formerly known as ByrdeMan or DanbyRem if you're into anagrams. While he's technically my junior on the site - he's someone who has a good head on his shoulders and has been through a lot in the league. I have faith in him to steer my ship to where it needs to go and that he'll do what needs to be done to ensure that my player is in the best spot possible - and that whatever team I end up on is also in the best position possible. I've worked with him in Montreal and Lethbridge - and Newfoundland/Chicago following that so we've got a long history. He's also not afraid to tell it to me how it is so fi there's a reality check needed or some hard truths, he won't hesitate to say them to me and that's waht you need from someone guiding your career.

RashfordU
HOF Committee
Winnipeg Aurora

#217

03-17-2024, 11:54 PM

Option2

Up until this point of Mikko’s career, he has opted to go without an agent during his time in the SMJHL and SHL. Early on, many people within the industry felt he was misstepping by not having one and taking team friendly deals even in situations where he maybe shouldn’t have.

Lately though, he’s wondered if that was the right decision. Should Mikko have someone out there holding the conversations for him? Someone bargaining for the next contract on his behalf? The answer, probably. But I wouldn’t expect a change anytime soon. Mikko still feels like a relatively serviceable player around the league, and now that he’s well into the latter half of his career, he’s unsure whether or not he’ll even need a manager in the future.

Fortunately, he knows the GM quite well, and that’s made any contract conversation over the years very simple quick call

Weaves
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#218

03-18-2024, 12:00 AM

Well here’s the thing lads, when the house is haunted it’s haunted — there really is no fix for the problem. So naturally, all you can do is either burn down the house or sell it to some sucker who doesn’t know the house is haunted. If for some reason you made me stay, you would need to start incense burning up in there cause that’s the only way to get rid of those ghosts!! You could also call the ghost busters cause I have their number from being on Kelowna, so my player can get a great deal on all those home services for ghosts clearings! Truthfully though I’m just gonna sell the place and move somewhere with a hot tub for my sore back from all those damn ghosts! Let the issue be someone else’s issue cause quite frankly I don’t want to deal with those ghosts.

locrianmidwest
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#219

03-18-2024, 12:02 AM

After another early playoff exit, you’d think I’d be getting a good nights’ rest. Perhaps, a bit too much rest. But no! These stupid fucking ghosts keep bothering me when I’m trying to get my depression naps in. I kinda let them do it when they would offer me some hockey advice, and some of it was even pretty good! But no. It’s off-season and they just keep annoying me. I’m tired of these motherfucking ghosts in MY motherfucking house! I’M GOING TO TAKE DRASTIC ACTION… by pawning this house off to some other poor bastard. Housing’s short in Canada, somebody’ll be desperate enough to ignore the little clause I’m putting in the listing about it. Besides: maybe it’ll be helpful to some young hockey player out there who’ll grow up here. I’m good though, I get enough unsolicited advice from my teammates as is. Now let me rest… ough

vic03
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#220

03-18-2024, 12:07 AM

Leo Roze has an agent, when I was making my media for my old player I named the agent Leo Roze, so technically Leo Roze is Leo Roze II, as his father who’s his agent is the original Leo Roze. I’ll refer to the agent as Mr. Roze. Mr. Roze is an ex Latvian player who never made it to the SHL but has made his money in the agent business. He’s been the agent for many Latvian junior players and spends a lot of his time working in the Latvian junior system trying to get talent. When Leo was going to the J, his father became his agent. However, Mr. Roze has stepped back in his role as agent and is focusing more on coaching in the Latvian junior system, and ex-SHL third line specialist Valters Denisova is taking over the role as Leo Roze’s agent in his upcoming seasons. Denisova also was the GM for UCORCAL in last seasons WJC.

Spartan
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#221

03-18-2024, 12:19 AM

Cheeks Klapanen has had an agent for a long time - Fin Gerinbum, who's been with him since the start of Cheeks' career way back since when he was in just high school. The two met after some interesting discussions about their names which they claim was fate. Only two people with such unique, dirty, yet glorious names could be bound together in fate and business. Gerinbum has negotiated all of Cheeks' brand deals and contracts with teams. For example, Trojan condoms was negotiated by Gerinbum who were very interested in having Cheeks Klapanen do an advertisement for them. Gerinbum also handled the most recent extension chats with Calgary management, ensuring that Cheeks would be a member of the Dragons for the next few seasons at the least. Now, rumors are swirling that Fin Gerinbum is leading the charge on an activist campaign for Cheeks, with sources telling reporters that Cheeks' next PR move will be to advocate for the creation of male birth control so that more cheeks can be clapped without a worry in the world.

notorioustig
IIHF Federation Head
Toast's Idiot of the Year 2021

#222

03-18-2024, 12:19 AM

Jesus Murphy's agent from a young age has been Pingus Pingerson III, Esq. Pingerson became famous for his eccentric representation of cult fan favourites Pingy Pingu and Lunga Gumba. Pingerson, who is a fully animatronic claymation penguin, and as time has gone on, it has become clear that Murphy's choice of representative is potentially not meant to be long term. For starters, Pingerson does not even speak English, resorting solely to noots and grunts while slapping body parts to communicate. Secondly, the lack of opposable thumbs makes it difficult, if not impossible, for Pingerson to carry out day to day administrative duties that would be commonplace for a player agent. Upon reviewing rookie contracts around the league, it became evident to Murphy that despite being a high pick, he was paid the same on his entry-level deal as late round picks, meaning that Pingerson was failing to even get the pair paid well. While a humourous addition to his support network, Murphy believes that Pingerson's presence may have been a prank set up by the teammates of his father and grandfather.

Hungy Fella
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#223

03-18-2024, 12:21 AM

Thomas Liebold does not want to hire an agent and never will. he thinks that they are dumb and a waste of his hard earned contract. he is a firm believer that anything an agent can do he can do just as well if not better. His goals are to win games and league championships and get paid while doing it and he does not want to have to waste time explaining each and every one of his individual goals to an agent every year. Thomas liebold thinks that an agent would only care about himself and would try to push him to take more money in each of his contracts which might make it harder for his team to win games. he likes to take team friendly deals because the most important thing to him is winning. maybe he will hire an agent years from now after he has won multiple championships and does not need to win anymore

SpartanGibbles
SMJHL GM
Finally a real SHL GM

#224

03-18-2024, 12:32 AM

Option 2:
Gordon-William Gibbles' agent is none other than his father Collin Gibbles. GW has had training since he could skate with his father and he knows the ins and outs of the league. Every week they get together for a family meal and go over what direction he wants his hockey career to move in. Gordon-William admires the long career his father had in Minnesota and is looking to have something similar for himself. As he enters his last season in the SMJHL, Gordon-William is preparing heavily with his father on for brand deals, sponsorships, and other new opportunities that will present themselves once he makes the leap to the SHL. Gordon-William trusts his father implicitly to help steer his career in the right direction. His father was always noted for his intelligence and ability to read a situation, a skill Gordon-William hopes he will pick up soon. His father has already helped him buy his own house in the Minneapolis area, so he will be ready for his first season.

crutch
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#225

03-18-2024, 12:40 AM

Carter Crutchfield's agent is his dad, Chris Crutchfield. To make sure they are on the same page, they review Carter's contract and when his free agency terms are up. These aren't very often when Crutchfield gets to sign a new deal, but it is always important to be aware of that. Once that is all straightened out, they talk about performance in terms of player growth and on ice performance and try to gauge what he should be asking from teams money wise. The SHL is a pretty tight cap league, so it's hard to make a lot of money in a deal unless you're going to a basement dweller, but it is possible to squeeze some money out of teams when necessary. Since Chris has been on both sides of this - as a player and a GM, that gives Carter some very valuable insight in to the thought process that he should have, and the thought process that the team will have.

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