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- Tomen - 03-11-2017
Quote:Originally posted by mpc@Mar 11 2017, 09:16 PMIt is a nice achievement but the team itself is pretty much the same as in S32. Just that the young guys finally make a good impact on the ice.
So getting BUF's first playoff series ever isn't an improvement? I think y'all are contenders for both GM awards.
- sarmo - 03-11-2017
Anderson has the highest shots faced, only reason Chiefs stayed close to .500 was him. We'd easily be dead last without him. No he didn't carry us into the playoffs but he was still the best goalie in the league in saves, how much more can you ask from him as a teammate lol
He downright had the most pressure put on him than anyone else in the league and still came out on top. Oh and majority of the W's the Chiefs got was because of goalie carry.. can rarely say that in this league.
- InciteHysteria - 03-11-2017
Quote:Originally posted by sarmo@Mar 11 2017, 02:17 PM
The only stat that matters for a goalie and proves his value is his SV%, all other stats define the team's performance IMO.
It should be a tight race for the McBride.
I think that's fair. But I think SV% is also a representation of TPE levels for the most part. I think because Andersson has some of the highest TPE and faced the most shots in the season his SV% will be boosted as a result.
Scoring was definitely up this season. Last season we saw seven goaltenders above .910 SV% and two above .920 SV%.
This season we have only three above .910 SV% and the closest goalie (Andersson) is still .004% away from being at the .920 mark.
What this tells me is that outside factors other than just "how good the goalie is" tie into SV%. S32 only saw two starting goaltenders below the .900 SV% line. This season we have five and two that are sitting at .900 SV%. On top of that we have three goalies that are .900 or below that currently have 25 or more wins.
So what this tells me is that none of these stats are reliable on how the goalies have played. Just that STHS is dumb as shit sometimes and those 3-4 games each goalie has where they have a .500-.600 SV% really does affect the overall numbers very heavily.
- sarmo - 03-11-2017
Quote:Originally posted by InciteHysteria@Mar 11 2017, 02:40 PM
I think that's fair. But I think SV% is also a representation of TPE levels for the most part. I think because Andersson has some of the highest TPE and faced the most shots in the season his SV% will be boosted as a result.
Scoring was definitely up this season. Last season we saw seven goaltenders above .910 SV% and two above .920 SV%.
This season we have only three above .910 SV% and the closest goalie (Andersson) is still .004% away from being at the .920 mark.
What this tells me is that outside factors other than just "how good the goalie is" tie into SV%. S32 only saw two starting goaltenders below the .900 SV% line. This season we have five and two that are sitting at .900 SV%. On top of that we have three goalies that are .900 or below that currently have 25 or more wins.
So what this tells me is that none of these stats are reliable on how the goalies have played. Just that STHS is dumb as shit sometimes and those 3-4 games each goalie has where they have a .500-.600 SV% really does affect the overall numbers very heavily.
Yea the inconsistency is annoying. It's hard to tell which goalie to draft for fantasy every season for instance lol it would be nice to have less randomness. We have some good seasoned goalies in this league that should be averaging around .918 % every season but don't. <_<
- fgh - 03-11-2017
Quote:Originally posted by sarmo@Mar 11 2017, 02:49 PM
Yea the inconsistency is annoying. It's hard to tell which goalie to draft for fantasy every season for instance lol it would be nice to have less randomness. We have some good seasoned goalies in this league that should be averaging around .918 % every season but don't. <_<
If we're going to use the fantasy metric, btw, McFadden wins the McBride :ph34r:
- InciteHysteria - 03-11-2017
Quote:Originally posted by sarmo@Mar 11 2017, 02:49 PM
Yea the inconsistency is annoying. It's hard to tell which goalie to draft for fantasy every season for instance lol it would be nice to have less randomness. We have some good seasoned goalies in this league that should be averaging around .918 % every season but don't. <_<
As someone who has been around STHS for awhile, outside of the SHL, I can tell that goalies have always been a crapshoot. That's why it's so frustrating to be a goaltender. My rookie season was above .910 SV% and 35 wins. This season I'm sitting at .899 SV% and 25 wins. Not exactly the best season one could ask for.
What I think is causing the goalies to be even harder to predict is the increased parity in the league. The traditionally worse teams are getting talent and developing it well. The traditional powerhouses are coming down to earth. While the outcomes of the last four cups has not been a surprise. The regular seasons have been.
So I can only see life for goaltenders becoming more frustrating as every single game they play in a season will be against a good to great team. This was the reason the goalie update scale was changed in the first place. Skaters inherently have an advantage in the STHS machine. The default settings on V3 are so high that if you sim it without messing with the sliders you'll see 12-9 games more frequently than 3-2 games.
Not much can really be done but adjusting the sliders more but that really hits the integrity of past seasons and compromises records. So the only other solution is boosting the TPE rate goalies get again. But at this point I don't see that being an option. Mainly because a goalie can max out at 1300TPE; or near there. The HO will just need to monitor the next few seasons closely and see if it continues growing into a bigger problem. At this point us goalies just need to prepare to enjoy masochism a bit more.
- sarmo - 03-11-2017
Quote:Originally posted by mpc@Mar 11 2017, 02:54 PM:lol:
If we're going to use the fantasy metric, btw, McFadden wins the McBride :ph34r:
- sarmo - 03-11-2017
Quote:Originally posted by InciteHysteria@Mar 11 2017, 02:59 PMYeah the only way to fix the goalie problem is to pinpoint it and see what needs to change in the next few season. I don't think it's a major problem but something definitely worth fixing.
As someone who has been around STHS for awhile, outside of the SHL, I can tell that goalies have always been a crapshoot. That's why it's so frustrating to be a goaltender. My rookie season was above .910 SV% and 35 wins. This season I'm sitting at .899 SV% and 25 wins. Not exactly the best season one could ask for.
What I think is causing the goalies to be even harder to predict is the increased parity in the league. The traditionally worse teams are getting talent and developing it well. The traditional powerhouses are coming down to earth. While the outcomes of the last four cups has not been a surprise. The regular seasons have been.
So I can only see life for goaltenders becoming more frustrating as every single game they play in a season will be against a good to great team. This was the reason the goalie update scale was changed in the first place. Skaters inherently have an advantage in the STHS machine. The default settings on V3 are so high that if you sim it without messing with the sliders you'll see 12-9 games more frequently than 3-2 games.
Not much can really be done but adjusting the sliders more but that really hits the integrity of past seasons and compromises records. So the only other solution is boosting the TPE rate goalies get again. But at this point I don't see that being an option. Mainly because a goalie can max out at 1300TPE; or near there. The HO will just need to monitor the next few seasons closely and see if it continues growing into a bigger problem. At this point us goalies just need to prepare to enjoy masochism a bit more.
- Lunaro - 03-11-2017
Quote:Originally posted by sarmo@Mar 11 2017, 01:49 PM
Yea the inconsistency is annoying. It's hard to tell which goalie to draft for fantasy every season for instance lol it would be nice to have less randomness. We have some good seasoned goalies in this league that should be averaging around .918 % every season but don't. <_<
drafting goalies is more about drafting the team. you just want wins and shutouts are random