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- RomanesEuntDomus - 07-03-2012
Hey everyone,
After I already made a thread with ideas and suggestions regarding new players a few months ago, I figured it would be a good idea to do a second edition of this thread with a bunch of new ideas and re-visiting some others. If you want to check the old thread out, it can be found here: http://theshl.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showtopic=2043
And these are my new ideas/suggestions:
1. A PT before the Draft
I think it would be a good thing to have a PT for the junior players before the actual NWJHL-draft. It would help them get accustomed to the league and they'd have something to do in a time that's usually pretty boring for a new guy. Some guys have made the argument against PTs before the draft that it would penalize the players that join late. But I don't think that would be the case at all.
First of all, we could have the PT going on for an extended period of time, it could still be open after the draft, we could even have it open for the whole season just as it works with the Radio-Broadcast PTs. Nobody would have a disadvantage from that, everyone would get to do this PT and those that joined early in the Recruitment Drive would have something to do while waiting for the draft.
There also still is a PT-cap in place that every active player will reach at some point, so even if some players didn't get to do this PT, if they stay active they will still have the same amount of points as the early joiners at the end of their first season.
I don't really see any disadvantages here, but a lot of opportunities to motivate new members and keep them active. It doesn't even have to be limited to one PT, we could split it up into 3-4 PTs that are very different (but also only give a small amount of points like 1-2), offering quicker gratification and more diverse range of tasks so that there's something for everyone.
2. Better Welcome/Approval-Messages
That's an easy one that wouldn't require much work, I think it would help junior players a lot if we had some more info in the welcome/approval-messages that are posted in the player threads. Include a link to the Rookie-guide, maybe to some other basic league info and the Junior-forum and new players should have a much easier start.
3. Prospect-Games
What happened to this idea? We had prospect-games last season and in my opinion they went great and we had one of the strongest draft-classes ever after it (obviously this wasn't just because of the prospect-games, although I think it helped). It would be a shame if we didn't have those games again this season.
4. Easier Training for Juniors
This idea is still very raw but I would love to hear some thoughts on it. I've heard from a lot of former players that one of the main things that drove them away from the league, besides the confusing structure of the forum, was the complicated training system. So how about we make training easier for juniors? We could eliminate the Individual-Training-Threads for each team altogether. Every Junior would just have to post his training in his own Player Update-thread. And I think it would also make a lot of sense to reverse the bank-link-system we have right now. Players should post their Withdrawals in the bank-section and then link to it from their Update-thread, not the over way around. It just makes more sense this way and should also help to prevent cheating.
And now that I think about it... Why should we just limit that to the NWJHL? We could change the system in the SHL as well, why do we need threads for Individual Training anyway?
5. Clean Up The Forum
I'm still pushing for cleaning up the forum and making it less overloaded with sub-forum etc, but I know it won't gonna happen
I hope you like those ideas, feel free to add some yourselves and post your opinions
Cheers, David
- Kel - 07-03-2012
- BasedMinkus - 07-03-2012
I agree with 1 and 3
- Corco - 07-03-2012
#Winter4NWJHLCommish
- Kel - 07-03-2012
Quote:Originally posted by Corcoran@Jul 3 2012, 05:14 PM
#Winter4NWJHLCommish
- Corco - 07-03-2012
http://theshl.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showforum=387
I don't think many prospects realize that they can do updates before they are drafted into the NWJHL. We need to make that forum easier to view
- Tylar - 07-03-2012
Quote:Originally posted by Corcoran@Jul 3 2012, 05:16 PM
http://theshl.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showforum=387
I don't think many prospects realize that they can do updates before they are drafted into the NWJHL. We need to make that forum easier to view
:o I never noticed that page... :unsure:
Also, Number 3 is great
- LX_Theo - 07-03-2012
Quote:Originally posted by Corcoran@Jul 3 2012, 04:16 PMWhy is it in the SHL area?
http://theshl.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showforum=387
I don't think many prospects realize that they can do updates before they are drafted into the NWJHL. We need to make that forum easier to view
- Phil.B - 07-03-2012
Good ideas.
- LX_Theo - 07-03-2012
Also the prospect games is a hit, miss idea. A lot of people are discouraged and go inactive during the season because of poor performance. Having the prospect game before might push a few people inactive because they don't think they'll do well after it.
Then again, activity tends to flourish with success. Meaning it can go either way.
So really it depends what people the success and lack of success effect. That is why it is a bit hit or miss idea.
- teztify - 07-03-2012
I do agree with a few of these, but a couple are already in place, or we do plan to use. Number 3 specifically, I don't think we planned to get rid of it. We commishes haven't even been told who is simming for us this season is one of the issues with starting that right now, but I do want to do it again. There usually is a PT before the draft as well. As for the approval/welcoming messages, every new member gets a pretty in depth PM sent to them automatically.
But still, it's a good list.
- RomanesEuntDomus - 07-03-2012
Quote:Originally posted by LX_Theo+Jul 3 2012, 11:24 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LX_Theo @ Jul 3 2012, 11:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Also the prospect games is a hit, miss idea. A lot of people are discouraged and go inactive during the season because of poor performance. Having the prospect game before might push a few people inactive because they don't think they'll do well after it.
Then again, activity tends to flourish with success. Meaning it can go either way.
So really it depends what people the success and lack of success effect. That is why it is a bit hit or miss idea.[/b]
You are right, but I'd say the possible gains outweigh the risk by a good margin. I think that for most juniors, just seeing their guy play for the first time is enough motivation to keep going, even if he isn't a great player from the get-go. And nobody will be stuck on the 4th-lines anyway and everyone will have his highlights sooner or later, if we hold those games somewhat regularly.
<!--QuoteBegin-Teztify@Jul 4 2012, 12:02 AM
I do agree with a few of these, but a couple are already in place, or we do plan to use. Number 3 specifically, I don't think we planned to get rid of it. We commishes haven't even been told who is simming for us this season is one of the issues with starting that right now, but I do want to do it again. There usually is a PT before the draft as well. As for the approval/welcoming messages, every new member gets a pretty in depth PM sent to them automatically.
But still, it's a good list.[/quote]
The thing is I don't think the prospect-games are of too much use in terms of motivating the juniots if the only start shortly before the draft. They should already start a week or two into recruitment-drive, when we have like 15-20 recruits, and go throughout the off-season because that's usually the time where new players have nothing to do and we lose a lot of them.
Oh and could you send me the in-depth PM that you send to new members?
And there is a PT before the draft? I've never heard about that (besides the mock-draft) and have actually heard NWHL-commishes actively dismiss the idea of pre-draft PTs.
- Spangle - 07-03-2012
Quote:Originally posted by LX_Theo@Jul 3 2012, 06:21 PM
Why is it in the SHL area?
Because it's where I tossed all the unassigned update pages for free agents.
- LX_Theo - 07-03-2012
Quote:Originally posted by Sponges@Jul 3 2012, 05:36 PMFair enough. Forgot about Free agents as well, lol.
Because it's where I tossed all the unassigned update pages for free agents.
- teztify - 07-03-2012
Quote:Originally posted by OcAirlines@Jul 3 2012, 07:31 PM
And there is a PT before the draft? I've never heard about that (besides the mock-draft) and have actually heard NWHL-commishes actively dismiss the idea of pre-draft PTs.
As far as I know we usually have one prior to the draft. I know commishes have said no before because then late recruits miss out on it. I wouldn't be against putting one up that we leave open until after the draft, though.