[x2 Draft] s71 SHL Production Based Redraft
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hewasajazzman
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05-16-2023, 05:00 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-16-2023, 05:16 AM by hewasajazzman. Edited 1 time in total.)
After the SHL Draft comes to a close it is commonplace to see redraft media so I wanted to take a stab at it. When looking into the draftees, the SHL GMs mostly look into player builds, user earning, and user character… but I wanted to base my redraft off of something that may be slightly overlooked, raw performance. I didn’t want to just give you a list of who scored the most, rather take a look at each individual and their production with the opportunity they were given. So, I took some inspiration from our Fantasy scoring and gathered up some stat categories, set point values to them, then divided the total by the player’s Time on Ice and multiplied that by 60 to give us a score based on that player’s production per 60 minutes. The scoring is as follows: G (goals)> 5, A (assists)> 3, SHT (shots)> 0.5, HIT (hits)> 0.75, SB (shot blocks)> 1, GA (giveaways)> -1, TA (takeways)> 1. I also gave 0.1 points for TOI (time on ice) but I don’t believe that actually did anything other than inflate all of the final scores since I’m dividing by that number anyway. Goalies were sort of difficult and I really didn’t know how to get a good reading when compared to the Skaters. I did a lot of playing around with the scoring until I got what looked like a good spread compared to the Skater’s final scores but I’m not exactly thrilled with it. W (wins)> 20, SO (shutouts)> 10, SV (saves)> 0.25. Again, I added the 0.1 for TOI but I’m decently sure if I got rid of it altogether (meaning for Skaters as well) it would have yielded the same results in terms of redraft order. Unfortunately I think the method I used is weighted heavily in favor of offensive players and doesn’t really reflect how good some players actually were inside of their role. But anyways, more on that after the data…
Round 1
1. San Francisco Pride Original Pick: RW Levin Schattenaxt Redraft Pick: RW Bear Trapp (#35 +34) G-8. A-14. SHT-44. HIT-59. SB-13. GA-18. TA-9. TOI-368. 2. Toronto North Stars Original Pick: LW Mercedes Baylé Redraft Pick: LW Inactive Forever (#11 +9) G-27. A-37. SHT-193. HIT-185. SB-24. GA-49. TA-46. TOI-1361. 3. Edmonton Blizzard Original Pick: LD Furious Chicken Redraft Pick: RW Thomas Liebold (#12 +9) G-18. A-45. SHT-116. HIT-230. SB-47. GA-41. TA-35. TOI-1348. 4. San Francisco Pride Original Pick: RW Logan Webb Redraft Pick: LW Shootin Blanks (#15 +11) G-12. A-22. SHT-81. HIT-112. SB-14. GA-25. TA-15. TOI-710. 5. San Francisco Pride Original Pick: C Dominik Winters Redraft Pick: LW Johnny FourStar (#19 +14) G-18. A-37. SHT-110. HIT-182. SB-43. GA-44. TA-40. TOI-1234. 6. Los Angeles Panthers Original Pick: LW Oliver Castillon Redraft Pick: LW Mercedes Baylé (#2 -4) G-22. A-31. SHT-169. HIT-156. SB-11. GA-33. TA-37. TOI-1217. 7. Baltimore Platoon Original Pick: LD Bellamy Blake Redraft Pick: RW Brock Samson (#47 +40) G-10. A-26. SHT-119. HIT-132. SB-28. GA-48. TA-18. TOI-826. 8. Tampa Bay Barracuda Original Pick: C Max Carnage Redraft Pick: RW Theodore Svatos (#69 +61) G-27. A-29. SHT-188. HIT-169. SB-15. GA-63. TA-29. TOI-1260. 9. Baltimore Platoon Original Pick: LD Jay Bryzi Redraft Pick: RW Luke Labrie (#89 +80) G-7. A-35. SHT-123. HIT-195. SB-47. GA-43. TA-24. TOI-1123. 10. Minnesota Monarchs Original Pick: LW Marshall Madden Redraft Pick: LD Bellamy Blake (#7 -3) G-15. A-37. SHT-130. HIT-120. SB-87. GA-10. TA-82. TOI-1524. 11. Hamilton Steelhawks Original Pick: LW Inactive Forever Redraft Pick: RW Andren Akerson (#24 +13) G-6. A-33. SHT-64. HIT-195. SB-31. GA-37. TA-42. TOI-1051. 12. Baltimore Platoon Original Pick: RW Thomas Liebold Redraft Pick: G Scary Jerry (#34 +22) W-13. SO-1. SV-502. TOI-1217. 13. Toronto North Stars Original Pick: LW Andre Latreille Redraft Pick: RW Jordan Tanner (#29 +16) G-20. A-22. SHT-151. HIT-144. SB-22. GA-43. TA-36. TOI-1123. 14. Manhattan Rage Original Pick: LD Mick Mayhem Redraft Pick: LW Heem Team (#41 +27) G-6. A-9. SHT-65. HIT-67. SB-3. GA-15. TA-15. TOI-459. 15. Buffalo Stampede Original Pick: LW Shootin Blanks Redraft Pick: RW Logan Webb (#4 -11) G-21. A-26. SHT-127. HIT-130. SB-21. GA-55. TA-39. TOI-1133. 16. Hamilton Steelhawks Original Pick: C Thomas Sawschuk Redraft Pick: C Erik Erikson (#25 +11) G-26. A-23. SHT-157. HIT-73. SB-15. GA-47. TA-41. TOI-1111. 17. New England Wolfpack Original Pick: RD Adelbert Steiner Redraft Pick: C Thomas Sawschuk (#16 -1) G-27. A-18. SHT-161. HIT-97. SB-36. GA-56. TA-51. TOI-1231. 18. Philadelphia Forge Original Pick: LW Barg Hazbite Redraft Pick: LW Filip Svatos (#22 +4) G-16. A-38. SHT-133. HIT-166. SB-18. GA-51. TA-30. TOI-1261. 19. Winnipeg Aurora Original Pick: LW Johnny FourStar Redraft Pick: LD Shnopple Lopple (#28 +9) G-8. A-26. SHT-147. HIT-131. SB-65. GA-15. TA-52. TOI-1316. 20. Minnesota Monarchs Original Pick: LD Boho Biscuit Redraft Pick: LW Oliver Castillon (#6 -14) G-16. A-30. SHT-109. HIT-110. SB-38. GA-39. TA-32. TOI-1153. Round 2 21. Manhattan Rage Original Pick: LW Alexej Kastrba Redraft Pick: LW Andre Latreille (#13 -8) G-14. A-25. SHT-141. HIT-178. SB-17. GA-53. TA-36. TOI-1193. 22. Tampa Bay Barracuda Original Pick: LW Filip Svatos Redraft Pick: RW Levin Schattenaxt (#1 -21) G-9. A-29. SHT-93. HIT-217. SB-35. GA-41. TA-27. TOI-1251. 23. Chicago Syndicate Original Pick: RW Just-to-Buy My-Love Redraft Pick: C Max Carnage (#8 -15) G-24. A-18. SHT-142. HIT-91. SB-31. GA-53. TA-41. TOI-1153. 24. Los Angeles Panthers Original Pick: RW Andren Akerson Redraft Pick: LW Matt Stro (#39 +15) G-6. A-30. SHT-107. HIT-163. SB-43. GA-49. TA-44. TOI-1183. 25. Manhattan Rage Original Pick: C Erik Erikson Redraft Pick: LW Alexej Kastrba (#21 -4) G-8. A-32. SHT-105. HIT-153. SB-44. GA-47. TA-39. TOI-1203. 26. Minnesota Monarchs Original Pick: C Kevin Kim Redraft Pick: LD David Anderson (#42 +16) G-7. A-23. SHT-84. HIT-69. SB-62. GA-10. TA-31. TOI-1006. 27. Baltimore Platoon Original Pick: LD Ryan Quintana-Green Redraft Pick: RD Merle Van Nistelrooy (#50 +23) G-6. A-29. SHT-121. HIT-101. SB-65. GA-16. TA-57. TOI-1309. 28. Manhattan Rage Original Pick: LD Shnopple Lopple Redraft Pick: C Dominik Winters (#5 -23) G-11. A-33. SHT-108. HIT-76. SB-66. GA-33. TA-63. TOI-1355. 29. Texas Renegades Original Pick: RW Jordan Tanner Redraft Pick: G Ally Mathieson (#55 +26) W-17. SO-2. SV-1042. TOI-2348. 30. Manhattan Rage Original Pick: G Net Man Redraft Pick: LW Finn Weiss (#32 +2) G-15. A-22. SHT-159. HIT-103. SB-32. GA-43. TA-29. TOI-1202. 31. Toronto North Stars Original Pick: RW Crystal McLeod Redraft Pick: RD Adelbert Steiner (#17 -14) G-10. A-21. SHT-104. HIT-125. SB-86. GA-18. TA-46. TOI-1424. 32. Buffalo Stampede Original Pick: LW Finn Weiss Redraft Pick: RD Aaron Ranger (#49 +17) G-9. A-18. SHT-107. HIT-124. SB-76. GA-23. TA-32. TOI-1266. 33. Calgary Dragons Original Pick: RD Bob Wehadababyitsaboy Redraft Pick: LD Ryan Quintana-Green (#27 -6) G-6. A-18. SHT-101. HIT-89. SB-49. GA-10. TA-48. TOI-1106. 34. New England Wolfpack Original Pick: G Scary Jerry Redraft Pick: C Morgan Delfield (#45 +11) G-13. A-15. SHT-87. HIT-55. SB-10. GA-23. TA-11. TOI-745. 35. Atlanta Inferno Original Pick: RW Bear Trapp Redraft Pick: RD Sillysauce McTartersauce (#62 +27) G-4. A-30. SHT-114. HIT-77. SB-72. GA-10. TA-44. TOI-1290. 36. Philadelphia Forge Original Pick: LD Johnny Shuffleboard Redraft Pick: RW Aumy Junior II (#38 +2) G-11. A-19. SHT-135. HIT-141 SB-15. GA-16. TA-26. TOI-1213. 38. Toronto North Stars Original Pick: RW Aumy Jr II Redraft Pick: LW Marshall Madden (#10 -28) G-13. A-15. SHT-131. HIT-174. SB-46. GA-49. TA-32. TOI-1325. 39. Toronto North Stars Original Pick: LW Matt Stro Redraft Pick: LD Mick Mayhem (#14 -25) G-7. A-19. SHT-102. HIT-88. SB-76. GA-14. TA-54. TOI-1331. Round 3 41. Toronto North Stars Original Pick: LW Heem Team Redraft Pick: LW Barg Hazbite (#18 -23) G-14. A-16. SHT-134. HIT-118. SB-18. GA-33. TA-28. TOI-1176. 42. Tampa Bay Barracuda Original Pick: LD David Anderson Redraft Pick: LD Boho Biscuit (#20 -22) G-5. A-18. SHT-64. HIT-69. SB-55. GA-6. TA-25. TOI-987. 43. Los Angeles Panthers Original Pick: RD Might-go IA Redraft Pick: RW Just-to-Buy My-Love (#23 -20) G-10. A-27. SHT-121. HIT-144. SB-35 GA-66. TA-39. TOI-1289. 45. Manhattan Rage Original Pick: C Morgan Delfield Redraft Pick: RD Might-go IA (#43 -2) G-9. A-19. SHT-98. HIT-86. SB-79. GA-12. TA-30. TOI-1316. 46. Minnesota Monarchs Original Pick: G Kyle Baretto Redraft Pick: RD Bob Wehadababyitsaboy (#33 -13) G-6. A-23. SHT-68. HIT-111. SB-79. GA-16. TA-85. TOI-1537. 47. Baltimore Platoon Original Pick: RW Brock Samson Redraft Pick: RW Crystal McLeod (#31 -16) G-5. A-19. SHT-61. HIT-158. SB-48. GA-42. TA-36. TOI-1171. 49. Texas Renegades Original Pick: RD Aaron Ranger Redraft Pick: C Larry Johnson The 3rd (#54 +5) G-15. A-20. SHT-137. HIT-76. SB-15. GA-38. TA-31. TOI-1153. 50. Manhattan Rage Original Pick: RD Merle Van Nistelrooy Redraft Pick: LD Johnny Shuffleboard (#36 -14) G-3. A-5. SHT-36. HIT-18. SB-8. GA-2. TA-26. TOI-405. 54. Calgary Dragons Original Pick: C Larry Johnson The 3rd Redraft Pick: LD Jay Bryzi (#9 -45) G-5. A-12. SHT-92. HIT-125. SB-95. GA-14. TA-55. TOI-1476. 55. Atlanta Inferno Original Pick: G Ally Mathieson Redraft Pick: G Net Man (#30 -25) W-6. SO-1. SV-757. TOI-1475. Round 4 62. Tampa Bay Barracuda Original Pick: RD Sillysauce McTartersauce Redraft Pick: C Crazy Tomato (#82 +20) G-5. A-9. SHT-40. HIT-40. SB-24. GA-25. TA-17. TOI-551. 69. Edmonton Blizzard Original Pick: RW Theodore Svatos Redraft Pick: LD Furious Chicken (#3 -66) G-2. A-17. SHT-86. HIT-116. SB-68. GA-36. TA-63. TOI-1338. Round 5 82. Tampa Bay Barracuda Original Pick: C Crazy Tomato Redraft Pick: C Todd Bowers (#109 +27) G-6. A-12. SHT-72. HIT-80. SB-42. GA-36. TA-49. TOI-1152. 89. Texas Renegades Original Pick: RW Luke Labrie Redraft Pick: G Kyle Baretto (#49 -40) W-5. SO-2. SV-929. TOI-1908. Round 6 109. Texas Renegades Original Pick: C Todd Bowers Redraft Pick: C Kevin Kim (#26 -83) G-2. A-5. SHT-29. HIT-19. SB-5. GA-10. TA-4. TOI-309. Data Furthest Climb: LD Jay Bryzi #89>#9 Furthest Fall: C Kevin Kim #26>#109 Closest to the Mark: C Thomas Sawschuk #16>#17 Stayed with the Team: RW Brock Samson , LW Alexej Kastrba , C Crazy Tomato , LD Furious Chicken First thing I noticed once I sorted all my data is that 1oa pick. I thought: man, my metrics must be really flawed. Buuuuuttt, looking into it you can clearly see that Bear Trapp is just a madman. Dude’s on almost a PPG pace while playing in just a third of the games this season and seeing bottom line minutes. Who’s to say how Trapp would perform with more minutes… but, as far as this data goes, he is the man. What I think is funny is that on the complete opposite end of the spectrum at 109oa sits Kevin Kim who has similarly low TOI. Something else that sticks out to me are picks like Theodor Svatos, taken at 69oa since he is a GM yet performing in the top 10. I see something like Bob Wehadababyitsaboy down at #46 and know if i do something like this again I’ll have to improve upon my method. I don’t think teams are waiting that long to take a Rookie Defenseman who led their league in Takeaways. Vancouver trusted him enough to give him the most minutes out of anyone on the list and unfortunately that hurt him since he doesn’t have the highest stats elsewhere. I’m not exactly sure what I could do to balance things out for players like Defensive Defensemen but I definitely would like to find a more concise way to represent the skill of any type of player should I decide to do something like this again. I was pretty aware of these issues, and the Goalie scoring dilemma, but by that time I was so deep into it I had to just keep on truckin through. I would definitely like to add some other stat categories, especially for the Goalies. I'd also likely change the way I determined the +/- of compared draft position since using draft overall positions can inflate that number. What I did like is that my final scores were pretty tight, ranging from roughly 16 to 30 with an average of about 22, meaning there were just a few outliers at the top. It’s not perfect but it’s… uhh… something. Oh, and of course my player still ends up in Manhattan! [3044 words]
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SHL GM S30 Cup Champion Never Going To Win A Cup 05-16-2023, 11:45 AMFuriousChicken Wrote: Pick 69, nice How dare you stand where I stood! “The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. ... There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.”
hewasajazzman
Registered Posting Freak 05-16-2023, 09:27 AMAnthique Wrote: Cool to see! But yeah those who joined later in the season are disadvantaged, but it's not too late for them!oh yeah, infi is one of the people im closest to when it comes to sim leagues. im saying that you likely wouldnt see his player be taken so low if the draft was based purely on player skill, so my metrics arent the best.
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