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*AgentSmith630* · 05-07-2022, 12:49 AM

05-06-2022, 11:22 PMYagoyi Wrote:
05-06-2022, 11:14 PMAgentSmith630 Wrote: Imagine only looking at 6 stats when deciding who should be nommed for any award, let alone RotY. C'mon man

so what's your argument for Hale?

I'm not on the awards committee, so I don't have one. I'm just saying that only comparing players based on 6 stats when there are so many others, especially relevant others, is a bit off.

Yagoyi · 05-07-2022, 01:27 AM

05-07-2022, 12:49 AMAgentSmith630 Wrote:
05-06-2022, 11:22 PMYagoyi Wrote: so what's your argument for Hale?

I'm not on the awards committee, so I don't have one. I'm just saying that only comparing players based on 6 stats when there are so many others, especially relevant others, is a bit off.

Kentaro Kikuchi - Shots blocked: 45, PDO: 99.1, GF/60: 3.2, GA/60: 2.5, SF/60: 41.3, SA/60: 28.6, CF%: 60.3, CF% rel: -0.6, FF%: 60, FF% rel: 0.2

Atticus Hale - Shots blocked: 5, PDO: 98.4, GF/60: 2.7, GA/60: 3.6, SF/60: 33.3, SA/60: 36.8. CF%: 47.2, CF% rel: -3.5, FF% 47, FF% rel: -3.4

Do you think +/- is relevant? Kikuchi beats Hale in that too.

Is 16 stats enough? Or does Hale deserve it purely on giveaways/takeaways, because that's all he has on Kikuchi.

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Yagoyi · 05-07-2022, 01:49 AM

05-06-2022, 11:12 PMToast Wrote:
05-06-2022, 09:28 PMYagoyi Wrote: Kentaro Kikuchi: 22G, 28A, 50P, 14 PIM, 91 HIT, 61 GR

Atticus Hale: 16G, 25A, 41P, 24 PIM, 43 HIT, 59 GR

what a joke. I guess its time to recreate

Kentaro Kikuchi: 18:56 ATOI / 1:30 minutes PP, 9 PP points

Atticus Haloe: 17:30 ATOI / 0:47 minutes PP, 3 PP points

enjoy retirement

Kentaro Kikuchi - Shots blocked: 45, PDO: 99.1, GF/60: 3.2, GA/60: 2.5, SF/60: 41.3, SA/60: 28.6, CF%: 60.3, CF% rel: -0.6, FF%: 60, FF% rel: 0.2

Atticus Hale - Shots blocked: 5, PDO: 98.4, GF/60: 2.7, GA/60: 3.6, SF/60: 33.3, SA/60: 36.8. CF%: 47.2, CF% rel: -3.5, FF% 47, FF% rel: -3.4

Replying to you too since you wanna be an ass about it. I'm sure the additional 1:26 ATOI made all the difference here...

Ronniewalker · 05-07-2022, 03:13 AM

Smh. No Kikuchi, no Kondos!? So having a true rookie actually succeed on a top line without being a liability instead is somehow a completely unspectacular feat in this league? Eyebrow

At least Yagoyi got the deserved manager and coach noms.

RomanesEuntDomus · 05-07-2022, 05:38 AM

@Yagoyi I get your frustration, it was a very close vote and I actually pushed for Kikuchi quite a bit in the last round of the nomination process but was ultimately outvoted. I think the main argument against your player for the other voters was indeed the additional ice time you got, especially on the Powerplay, as well as the very bad takeaway-giveaway ratio. Some voters seem to be very sensitive in regards to GMs playing their own players a lot after some examples of that in the past, which might have worked against you here. I don't really agree with that, just trying to show you what some of the internal arguments were that lead to this decision. And it ultimately came down to a tiebreaker, so it was very close nontheless.