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For the Kelowna defense, they have to get more points. We have that number one defenseman who scores points, we have so many good defensive defensemen's but all we need is more playmaking defensemen that can get points just by feeding the puck off to the sniper or the forward or something like that. Our forwards need depth too but I think the defensive side is an issue as well. I just said that we have a good defensive core, but it's not good enough to make a cup appearance, you need to be physical and you need to pass efficiently and in a fast pace so that the other team can't respond. Maybe not Winnipeg for example but we don't have that kind of offense either. Right now I really look more like a defensive center than a scoring one, but those giveaway percentages to takeaway is concerning for me.