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*Gwdjohnson* · 08-17-2020, 01:34 AM

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A bit forward-looking here, but Tampa Bay will continue their drastic improvement and win double-digit games next season

It depends, but I'm going to say no, although it could go either way. I think both expansion teams next season will be immediately a decent cut above TBB, so they won't help the already bad odds of 10 TBB wins. I also think that the addition of Ambacas Cuddles and Zoltan Topalo to the Tampa squad just isn't enough of a boost for them to really make any bigger of a splash in S56. They are definitely coming along nicely and could surprise me though!

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Scholz or Kirkby will win the Stevens Award for best defenseman

Yeah, Scholz or Kirkby will win it 100%. Points aren't necessarily a be all end all stat for judging the effectiveness of a defenseman, but it looks like for Scholz and Kirkby the points divide at the top for dmen between them and 3rd and below will just be too large to ignore. In the case of Scholz, he also has the highest corsi for % of all players in the league, which only boosts his already overwhelmingly strong case even more.

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THE RETURN OF CAMERON CARTER - CCII will land on an all-star team!

CAMERON CARTER II WILL ABSOLUTELY MAKE THE ALL-STAR TEAMS. THE GOAT HAS RISEN TO THE HEIGHTS WE ALL KNEW HE WAS CAPABLE OF AND ALL MUST BOW BEFORE HIM. HE IS 5TH IN THE LEAGUE IN GOALS WHILE HAVING NO INVOLVEMENT ON THE CHICAGO POWERPLAY AND ONLY PLAYING JUST ABOVE 17:18 TIME ON ICE PER GAME. IS THERE ANY DENYING HE DESERVES ANYTHING LESS THAN A FIRST TEAM ALL STAR NOD? NOPE.

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Collin Gibbles will finish with the most takeaways in the league for the third straight season

It's definitely Gibbles' to lose at this point. Takeaways aren't very common a stat to get, so a lead of 5 is bigger than it may seem. Minnesota is a team that turns the puck over very often, which kind of in turn means the better defensive players get more chances to get takeaways, hence why Gibbles and Matthias Seger are 1st and 3rd in the category respectively. Gibbles gets the threepeat is my prediction.

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The Calgary Dragons are the team that most urgently needs to make a deadline move

I strongly disagree. Calgary already have pretty low odds at winning the cup, so I think the risk of any rental being wasted assets is just too high for them. I think Calgary has a decent squad, but they have been on the decline for a while now so its not the time to make big asset dumps.

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Of the major trades that have gone down in the past month, Edmonton's move for Theo Morgan stands out as the best of all

I'm not sure if it was within the 'past month' window, but the trade with San Francisco that Hamilton made to give SFP Geezus Kryyst is easily the best, no question. Hamilton got what will be a lottery 1st in S57 almost definitely, along with a pick that became top earner Jason Desrouleaux and a high 3rd too. There were questions about if the loss of the star starter Kryyst would hurt our strong Hamilton team, but recent call-up A Jobin has been playing very well, coming incredibly close to exactly mirroring Kryyst's stats from S54. In terms of assets out and in, Hamilton made the deal of the offseason here, considering Kryyst is SFP's backup goalie now and may even be claimed in expansion.

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No one can hold a candle to the Berserkers; they will hoist the Four Star Cup

No way this can be said with total certainty. The Berserkers are solid this season but they're not at all like Detroit in S53 and they are easily beatable. Carolina, Maine, Anchorage and Kelowna are all huge competitors that Newfoundland will have to battle hard with to be able to win the cup this time, and it will not at all be an easy path for them if they are to win the cup this time around.

(gimme the +1)

Henrik · 08-17-2020, 01:36 AM

For Calgary needing to make a move. There are still some juicy targets out there and with a couple of days left until the deadline they should be able to add a key guy or two and really make a push.

MCP_ · 08-17-2020, 01:40 AM

Alright, you know the rules: 1 take, 1 wrong opinion, everyone knows the rules.

Quote:New Orleans will break the FHM President's Trophy Curse and win the Challenge Cup as well

Wrong. Honestly, a bunch of teams are trying for a cup this season, and the likelihood of them winning the cup again is slim to none. They were a buncha chokers before, and they'll be a bunch of chokers again. NEXT!

Quote:A bit forward-looking here, but Tampa Bay will continue their drastic improvement and win double-digit games next season

Incorrect. Tampa Bay will be the first team in SHL history to win triple-digit games. This will occur because of a rift in the space-time continuum, allowing the Barracuda to kick all y'all's asses in multiple universes. NEXT!

Quote:The New England Wolfpack are the best team that won't make the playoffs

Act aside, this is a bad take. They literally blew it up this offseason, and they aren't wanting to be the best team. I think this title goes to the Los Angeles Panthers since they made the Western Conference Finals last season, but are out of a playoff spot, even though they do have the TPE to do something. NEXT!

Quote:The MVP awards are Monkey D Luffy's to lose

Ouch. Dude is a fucking bum and he will continue to be so. Even then, he's pretty average on the power play, and he's as soft as Charmin with that one measly fight. Kids these days... NEXT!

Quote:Scholz or Kirkby will win the Stevens Award for best defenseman

Oof. It's probably gonna go to Poopity Scoop since there is a clear bias towards Buffalo in this league. Remember the good ol days where there wasn't any favoritism in the slightest? Kids these days... NEXT!

Quote:THE RETURN OF CAMERON CARTER - CCII will land on an all-star team!

NO NO NO. Cameron Carter II is as washed up as they get. Expecting him to do anything of note is like expecting people to do their research before writing a PT. NEXT!

Quote:Parker Smeb is the toughest player in the entire SHL

False as Hell. Smeb is soft as they get. You wanna talk about tough? Talk about Taisei-Tiikeri Wawazat, now THAT's a tough as nails fighter. Smeb hasn't even won a fight in this season yet. Pathetic. NEXT!

Quote:Collin Gibbles will finish with the most takeaways in the league for the third straight season

Nah. He's running out of steam this season due to having to carry the team on his back. Expect the next guy to pass him soon. NEXT!

Quote:The Calgary Dragons are the team that most urgently needs to make a deadline move

Nope nope nope. I say that the Rage are the team that needs to make the move. They've been playing second fiddle to Buffalo for seasons now, and they need to make that move to put them completely on top, and not anything less. NEXT!

Quote:Of the major trades that have gone down in the past month, Edmonton's move for Theo Morgan stands out as the best of all

Nah. I'd say it would be all the suitors during the San Francisco Pride fire sale. They basically improved their teams for pennies on the dollar, so I'd say they won overall. NEXT!

Quote:The new expansion teams should be placed in West Virginia and Montana #NOLEAKS

Na. Montreal and Salt Lake City. NEXT!

Quote:No one can hold a candle to the Berserkers; they will hoist the Four Star Cup

Shit. They're a buncha chokers and they'll do it again. NE- oh we're done.

DeletedAtUserRequest · 08-17-2020, 01:50 AM

08-17-2020, 01:34 AMGwdjohnson Wrote:
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[code]The Calgary Dragons are the team that most urgently needs to make a deadline move

I strongly disagree. Calgary already have pretty low odds at winning the cup, so I think the risk of any rental being wasted assets is just too high for them. I think Calgary has a decent squad, but they have been on the decline for a while now so its not the time to make big asset dumps.

You got to appreciate how high the bar is for Calgary.. a team with a .708 winning pct this season... and who hasn’t missed the playoffs in 10 seasons, with a championship in that time.

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**_Blitz_** · 08-17-2020, 01:56 AM

Quote:The new expansion teams should be placed in West Virginia and Montana #NOLEAKS

I Disagree.

While geographically, one might be able to argue the merits of these locations, I question what they have to offer symbolically.

Let's start with West Virginia. From the outside looking in, just "What Do I Think Of?", West Virginia has the Appalachian Mountains and the odd, reclusive people that live in them. This has already been done by the West Virginia Mountaineers, the state university.
According to the stat book, the state animal of West Virginia is the Black Bear, the state bird is the Cardinal, and the state flower is the Big Laurel (which is featured on the state flag). After agriculture, which is primarily soybeans, tobacco, and apples, the largest industry is coal mining.
If I were designing a brand for West Virginia, I'd have to go for the Miners. The other options, the Bears, the Cardinals, and the Mountaineers have been done ad nauseum or in a way that's tied deeply to the state as it is. I guess it's okay, but the coal miner shtick is a fine line between cool and Hillbilly Yosemite Sam. And that's not even factoring that UTEP has a corner on decent Miner branding.
In conclusion, the only thing putting a team in West Virginia does for the league is give an excuse for blaring "Country Roads" as a goal horn. If you need an excuse that badly, I ask you to consider the goal horns already in use in this league and just do it anyway.

As for Montana... more mountains, and cowboys? "Brokeback Mountain" took place in Montana, right? I honestly have no idea. I think of the state so little that I occasionally confuse it with Minnesota.
The state university mascots are the Grizzlies and the Bobcats (common to high schools in East Texas as well). The state mammal is the Grizzly Bear, the bird is the Western Meadowlark, and the flower is the Bitterroot. It's major bragging points are Yellowstone National Park (valid) and being fucking cold all the time (not as valid).
For my own design preferences, I have nothing. None of this sparks joy. It's boring. Beautiful landscapes, sure, but nothing unique or inspiring in the symbolism or culture here. We already have the Blizzard and a big cat team, and we don't need a bear team. I guess you could make them the Geyser or the Volcanoes or something? I don't see it.
In conclusion, you could make a North Dakota team and call it Montana, and I probably wouldn't notice or care. Why Montana?

Overall, neither seems to be a good landing place for an SHL franchise, even though I could possibly see West Virginia in the SMJHL. But Montana?

*Gwdjohnson* · 08-17-2020, 02:19 AM

08-17-2020, 01:50 AMMike Izzy Wrote:
08-17-2020, 01:34 AMGwdjohnson Wrote:
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[code]The Calgary Dragons are the team that most urgently needs to make a deadline move

I strongly disagree. Calgary already have pretty low odds at winning the cup, so I think the risk of any rental being wasted assets is just too high for them. I think Calgary has a decent squad, but they have been on the decline for a while now so its not the time to make big asset dumps.

You got to appreciate how high the bar is for Calgary.. a team with a .708 winning pct this season... and who hasn’t missed the playoffs in 10 seasons, with a championship in that time.

People keep thinking it's the season they'll drop off but it never happens lol, last season was close but this season SFP/LAP sales plus Lockhart trade helped a lot.

Dextaria · 08-17-2020, 02:23 AM

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New Orleans will break the FHM President's Trophy Curse and win the Challenge Cup as well

Well I guess hindsight is 20/20. Now that we know that the New Orleans Specters did not win the President's Trophy, they don't have a "curse" to go up against! Does this mean that they now have a greater chance that they will win the Challenge Cup? I don't think so. I believe that a team's standings is indicative of how a team will do in the playoffs. In the past 2 seasons with FHM, both President Trophy winning teams made it to the 2nd round and in addition to that, the Buffalo Stampede lost in Game 7 in the 2nd round. One good bounce in their favour and Buffalo could've have made it to the finals and who knows, maybe they could've won the Challenge Cup.

Also, FHM may seem to have a "curse" on the President's Trophy; however, we only have 2 seasons worth of data to pull from. A Challenge Cup win in this season and the next by the President's Trophy winner can greatly skew the numbers to a 33% chance of winning and a 50% chance of winning respectively. That makes the odds look a lot better in terms of a President's Trophy team winning the Challenge Cup, especially since there are currently 8 teams that enter the playoffs.

Lastly, if we look towards the SMJHL, the Detroit Falcons were able to win the Four Star Cup and the SMJHL equivalent to the President's Trophy in the same season. This makes the odds 50% in the SMJHL which makes it look really good.

Now will this season's President's Trophy winner win the Challenge Cup? I'm leaning more towards no than yes, but odds are that it will happen soon enough even if it isn't in this season.

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A bit forward-looking here, but Tampa Bay will continue their drastic improvement and win double-digit games next season

The Tampa Bay Barracudas can 100% continue their improvement to double-digit wins next season. This is because the team have been actively seeking out some of the best IFAs in free agency and spending the money on getting better players for their team. In addition to this, I can see them getting a few upgrades for next season as they call up the likes of Ambacas Cuddles, Jerry Huuveri, and Zoltan Topalo. This will give immediate boosts to the team as they are higher TPE than their current players and will be continuing to grow throughout the season.

Now where would the 2 extra wins come from? I am not entirely certain, but with the correct tactics and good puck luck the team can manage some wins over teams that people may not be expecting. I think a couple of their games show how close they were to double-digit wins this season as they had 6 games where they lost by 1 goal. As I mentioned earlier, a couple more lucky bounces and with the addition of their up and coming prospects, some of those 1 goal cames could have converted to wins.

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The New England Wolfpack are the best team that won't make the playoffs

Standings-wise, the New England Wolfpack are the best team that didn't make the playoffs. The team was just 2 or so points shy of that last place spot in the Eastern Conference and this was even after they traded players like Eko van Otter off the team this season. To be honest, even after the trades, I personally think that New England had a pretty good team although I didn't expect for them to make the playoffs. This season showed that I was correct and that they are still a very good team placing 8th overall in the entire league in points. Also, the team had a positive goal differential of +27 and a win percentage of 0.610. Sure the team lost to the likes of Tampa Bay, but are they the best team out of the playoffs? I think 100% they are.

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The MVP awards are Monkey D Luffy's to lose

Monkey D Luffy had such a dominating start of the season. It seemed like he was well in the clear of all other players and was destined to snag a couple awards at least this season. However, things appeared to have slowed down for the Buffalo Stampede nearing the tail end of the season. The team was still well in the playoffs; however, other teams and other players began catching up to them.

Luffy ended the season with an impressive 72 points, tied with Daniel Smeb of the Chicago Syndicate and just 3 points behind Hamilton's Aaron Wilson. Now does this affect Luffy's chances of winning the MVP awards? In my opinion, absolutely. I personally think a league leading player in points that is 10 points ahead of the next highest scoring player on their team has a higher chance of winning the MVP awards compared to the 2nd place player that is 12 points ahead of the next highest scoring player. Plus, Luffy played on a stacked Buffalo team and I am certain that the awards committee will factor that into their voting as well.

And so, the MVP awards were most certainly Monkey D Luffy's to lose.

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Scholz or Kirkby will win the Stevens Award for best defenseman

For me, the best defenseman has to do it all. They have to be able to score points, play well defensively, and overall be trusted in all situations. Karlstrasse Scholz I would say exhibited these qualities. Scholz leads the league in points with 54 to end the season, he has 113 hits, 53 shots blocked, and 10 more takeaways to giveaways. Everything is looking set for Scholz to win the Stevens Award. The only thing that may be holding him back is that his shots blocked is a little lower in comparison to others.

Rex Kirkby on the other hand has the 2nd most points for defenseman with 44, 83 hits, 128 shots blocked, and 15 more giveaways than takeaways. Comparing the 2, I think Scholz easily has the upper hand for the Stevens Award for best defenseman. The only stat that Scholz lacks is shots blocked as mentioned earlier.

As for my nominee for the Stevens Award. I would actually go with Poopity Scoop who had 40 points, 115 hits, and 75 shots blocked. Scoop also has 13 more takeaways than giveaways. I don't think Scoop will win the award as I think it will go to Scholz this season, but I think Scoop should get some consideration as a nominee.

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THE RETURN OF CAMERON CARTER - CCII will land on an all-star team!

I personally don't think Cameron Carter II will land on an all-star team. While his production was impressive considering how far into regression Carter is, I don't think that 41 points is enough to make it to an all-star team. Those 41 points was good enough for 4th among Chicago forwards, 5th overall on the team, but only around 40-50 in the entirety of the league. Plus, Carter doesn't have other stats to back him. He had 64 hits which is good, but 39 giveaways to 6 takeaways, and 6 shots blocked. Carter did not even play any special teams for Chicago which I think further hurts his chances.

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Parker Smeb is the toughest player in the entire SHL

While Parker Smeb had an impressive 337 hits last season, this season Parker came back down to Earth with 256. This still leads the league in hits; however, is only 27 more than the next hardest hitter in Wawazat. Looking at this season, I would say that Wawazat is the toughest player in the entire SHL. Wawazat has 229 hits playing 10 less minutes on average, and has a fight win this season under his belt. He also had 85 penalty minutes which was good enough for 3rd most in the league this season. I think those numbers speak for themselves and Wawazat, at least for this season, should take the crown for toughest player in the SHL.

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Collin Gibbles will finish with the most takeaways in the league for the third straight season

Right on the mark as Collin Gibbles indeed finish once again at the top of the league in takeaways. Gibbles had 49 more takeaways than giveaways with 68, and has 20 more takeaways compared to the next player in Nat Emerson. What is most likely helping Gibbles in achieving this season after season is the fact that his stick checking is all the way up at 20.

However, I personally think that having the most takeaways or having the most giveaways is not indicative of one's performance. I believe that we must look at the 2 stats together and look at the giveaway to takeaway ratio. This will better show us how effective a player is on ice. For example, Gibbles' takeaway to giveaway ratio 3.58 compared to Fiddler's 2.52. From this, I would say Gibbles was more effective, but that of course doesn't affect the fact that Gibbles had the most takeaways once again.

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The Calgary Dragons are the team that most urgently needs to make a deadline move

Among all the teams in the playoffs, the Calgary Dragons do seem to be the team that most urgently needed to make a deadline move if they wanted a better chance at the Challenge Cup. I counted 14 of their current rostered players undergoing regression and their window this this team is quickly closing unless they go into a bit of a retool and set sights on winning with another core.

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Of the major trades that have gone down in the past month, Edmonton's move for Theo Morgan stands out as the best of all

Of all the major trades that went down, I remember the Theo Morgan trade as being the trade I felt would have the largest impact on the team. To what extent I was uncertain; however, I felt Morgan could slot in on the team very well on the 1st line and on the powerplay. I expected a good season from Morgan and he went well beyond my expectations, having the most goals in the league this season.

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The new expansion teams should be placed in West Virginia and Montana #NOLEAKS

There is a very clear difference between where a team should be placed and where a team is most likely going to be placed. For example, teams in Seattle or Montreal are more likely; however it is clear the the SHL is lacking teams in the North West and Central part of the United States. There may be a good reason for that such as SMJHL teams like Colorado claiming an entire state, and Vancouver being in the SMJHL when the city can most certainly be an SHL team.

As for West Virginia and Montana, West Virginia I think is too close to a lot of other SHL teams and so I don't think that an SHL team should be placed there. Montana on the other hand I think would be a good place since there aren't many teams there. However, I don't think there would be much support for a team in Montana.

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No one can hold a candle to the Berserkers; they will hoist the Four Star Cup

I think with all the teams making it to the SMJHL playoffs once again, this makes it harder to say that there is a clear winner. This is coming from the standpoint of a Vancouver Whaler because we have witnessed the Whalers take the season series 3-1. Although season series aren't indicative of actual performance in the playoffs, it is a sign that the Berserkers are able to lose even though they seem unstoppable. This is again shown in last year's playoffs where they seemed like the favourites, but they were ousted in the 2nd round to the Carolina Kraken.

Are the Berserkers favourite to win the Four Star Cup? I would say so. But are they going to win the Four Star Cup? I'm not too sure about that. I feel like they are going to be upset once again this playoffs.

Mutedfaith · 08-17-2020, 03:55 AM

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New Orleans will break the FHM President's Trophy Curse and win the Challenge Cup as well

The curse can, and will, not be broken. I have no doubt that NOLA will win the President's Trophy, even though they are in the more balanced / stronger of the two conferences, but they're not even going to make it to the finals, let alone win the Challenge Cup.

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A bit forward-looking here, but Tampa Bay will continue their drastic improvement and win double-digit games next season

I consider TBB to be like a season behind Minny and Toronto, and haven't seen them getting the double-digits yet. So next season is probably going to be too early. Maybe the season after. Although with expansion on the menu, it'll depend on their plans and picks as well.

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The New England Wolfpack are the best team that won't make the playoffs

Given that none of the other teams that didn't make the playoffs even got close, you'd say this'd be an easy "true". However, NEW isn't that good. They're very skewed towards defense, and excl at that part of the ice, but their offence is just not there.

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The MVP awards are Monkey D Luffy's to lose

Both Jimmy Slothface and Daniel Smeb aren't too far behind in points production, and are doing a better job at the defensive part of the game. So while Luffy has a little edge over the both of them at the moment, it can all change in a hot minute.

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Scholz or Kirkby will win the Stevens Award for best defenseman

The Stevens could very well go to one of these two, as they're leading the D's in offensive production, although Augustus Wang still has a shot at the award as well.

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THE RETURN OF CAMERON CARTER - CCII will land on an all-star team!

Only 17 minutes of icetime per game, no power play, no penalty kill, 49th in points. I don't know what drugs you're on, but this guy isn't all-star material.

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Parker Smeb is the toughest player in the entire SHL

Only one fight, and he didn't even win it. Smeb hits a lot, but that just makes him a bumper car. You want to be tough, drop the gloves.

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Collin Gibbles will finish with the most takeaways in the league for the third straight season

Yes, the Minny takeaway machine strikes again. And to top it off, Matias Seger will finish second in the league.

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The Calgary Dragons are the team that most urgently needs to make a deadline move

Not really. IF any team could use a deadline move, its the Steelhawks. And even they look solid enough to put up a good fight in the ploofs.

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Of the major trades that have gone down in the past month, Edmonton's move for Theo Morgan stands out as the best of all

Not really. If we want to rate major trades, I'd rank Eko van Otter's trade to BUF higher than Theo Morgan to EDM. Not only does it bolster the current squad, it also protects BUF in the upcoming expansion draft.

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The new expansion teams should be placed in West Virginia and Montana #NOLEAKS

The new expansion teams should obviously be in Puerto Rico and Hawaii.

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No one can hold a candle to the Berserkers; they will hoist the Four Star Cup

Regular season and post season are very different. NFL may look unbeatable at the moment, but in a series of 7 games, anything can happen.

dankoa · 08-17-2020, 04:06 AM

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Of the major trades that have gone down in the past month, Edmonton's move for Theo Morgan stands out as the best of all

Against. I would have to disagree with this in a big way. Three 1sts for a pending FA who seemed determined to test FA is a crazy expensive move, and the fact it hasn't gotten them to the top of the west is a little concerning. I really liked the trade Hamilton made for Zheng and Clapper. It was expensive, but they got two franchise players out of it who by all accounts are willing to buy into the team long term.

Segi · 08-17-2020, 04:26 AM

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Collin Gibbles will finish with the most takeaways in the league for the third straight season

For. @SpartanGibbles is an absolute puck hog and especially loves to steal them from the opponent. A part of the team is convinced that he's using some kind of magnetic device in his stick to get the pucks away from the opposition, but so far, no one has been able to prove anything.

***Ace*** · 08-17-2020, 06:11 AM

08-17-2020, 12:37 AMAgentSmith630 Wrote: Against: Of the major trades that have gone down in the past month, Edmonton's move for Theo Morgan stands out as the best of all.

The BUF trade for EVO gives them an extra protection slot for basically free, so they get to protect even more of their insanely deep team and prospect pool, making that stand out as the best recent trade.

Sure, if you can call a 1st, a 2nd and potentially a second second free, lol.

I dont think Edmonton got enough via trade for the price they paid with LA. For the amount of assets they sent out the door, I feel as if they should've gotten a larger return.

Zema · 08-17-2020, 06:15 AM

FOR The New England Wolfpack are the best team that won't make the playoffs.

The re-building New England might just have traded away their star player for yet another first round pick. That doesn't mean they are a bad team by any means though! They still have VDH, Eller, Montgomery and all other crazy Wolfies on the team to carry their torch through the reminder of the regular season and onwards. They are simply the best.

***Ace*** · 08-17-2020, 06:15 AM

The New England Wolfpack are the best team that won't make the playoffs

If we still had Eko van Otter perhaps. With the expansion coming and learning of his imminent departure, it really put a monkey wrench into my plan of a rolling rebuild, or drastically altering our core via the draft while simultaneously fielding a competitive team. With Otter gone now, we're just another team that isn't good enough.

***Ace*** · 08-17-2020, 06:18 AM

New Orleans will break the FHM President's Trophy Curse and win the Challenge Cup as well

Against. The Specters caught lightning in a bottle last season, it won't happen again. I wouldn't be surprised to see them coast to a Challenge Cup Finals appearance because the Western Conference just doesn't pack the same punch.

***Ace*** · 08-17-2020, 06:20 AM

The new expansion teams should be placed in West Virginia and Montana #NOLEAKS

Really ought to have a team in Montreal. I am dying for a natural rival here in New England. Do what is right, Head Office, and bring us a Quebecois team to butt heads with.

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