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![]() Registered Posting Freak Quote:Originally posted by hedgehog337@Aug 2 2015, 03:35 PM Nice, I thought the first two people to answer wouldn't get the reference to yesterday's news. Can't say that I'm too surprised. For the new album... I swear to the god that doesn't exist, let's hope the X and Cube features are good. ![]() Registered S13, S15, S16 Challenge Cup Champion Quote:Originally posted by Spangle@May 29 2015, 02:25 PM wtf happened to snoop
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![]() Banned Banned Quote:Originally posted by stevo@Aug 2 2015, 04:50 PM ''Genocide'', ''Animal'', ''Just Another Day'', ''Loose Cannons'' and ''Issues'' songs were fine. BTW, I've heard Sean P died. Is that true? ![]() Registered S39 Challenge Cup Champion
So an anonymous group of Chicago rappers and producers under the name Goodbye Tomorrow released a self-titled album this week. And so far, it's really fucking well done, even though I've only listened to a bit of it so far. Want to know these guys are!
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![]() Future - Dirty Sprite 2</div> Thought It Was a Drought: 7/10 -When it comes to trap, the quality of the song relies entirely on the quality of the beat. When Metro Boomin is on the boards, you know that some good stuff is about to happen. This song is no exception, as it completely bumps. Future says nothing of substance, like, actually nothing of substance. Not a single bar is thought provoking and are all entirely material. This is not a criticism, just a statement of fact. In spite of that, he rides the beat very well and does it justice. The lyrics are also quite catchy, which helps. Above all, this beat bumps something unholy. I Serve the Base: 2/10 -Remember when I said the beat was the most important part of a trap song? Well, the beat here sounds like it is of a small animal being tortured with a trap song playing in the background. It is literally horrendous. As such, the song is horrendous. Not hard, is it? Where Ya At (ft. Drake): 8/10 -After a slight detour early on in this album, we are back on track with this entry. A superb beat plus a phenomenal feature from Drake, who has the "midas touch" nowadays? Yes please. Seriously, Drake can do no wrong right now and this is a great example of it as he murders this. However, Future does not get overshadowed at all as he rides the beat very well and certainly matches Drake, as this one does not feel like Drake ft. Drake in the least. Shout out to Future for bucking that recent trend and making a hot song. Groupies: 5/10 -So, I may have lied earlier. This beat slams. Forget slaps. This thing slams. Like, if you ride around in this with the bass set high, you WILL cause an earthquake large enough to wipe out California even if you're riding around in your upscale suburban community in Long Island (like much of site undoubtedly). However, this one stops short of being a good song due to the lyrics on that hook. The verses are fine. Ignorant and material, sure, but they work well with the song and Future delivers them well. However, I hate hooks that just keep repeating the same phrase over-and-over, especially when it is with a bad delivery as it is on this track. Future's delivery on this hook is annoying and too aggressive. Overall, this one stops short of being good and is decidedly average. Lil Ones: 5/10 -Thanks to Metro Boomin, Southside, and Elijah Sacii, this beat bumps. Future also rides the beat very well, but certainly seems subdued here. Instead of the incredible energy he brought on earlier tracks, he has taken a proverbial "chill pill" here and sounds far calmer, which suits the beat very well. Yet, in spite of these positives, the track is just...not interesting. It Stick Talk: 4/10 -"I ain't got no manners for no sluts / I'mma put my thumb in her butt". Literally just this line alone ruins this one for me. Wtf Future, I am not trying to hear stuff like this. The beat is very nice though and Future rides it very well. The lyrics are nothing special, but I am still caught up on that image of Future shoving his finger in some girl's butt. I was serious when I said that one line killed this one for me, especially since it always jumps out to me on listens of the album. Freak Hoe: 2/10 -If my rating for the last track, clued you in, overtly sexual tracks are never my favorite. This one is not an exception. Truly, the only exception are songs by The Weeknd, haha. In this songs case, the hook and lyrics are entirely about sex and just off-putting. The beat is fine, but the lyrical content slaughters this one for me. Rotation: 5/10 -This beat bumps something fierce, but in spite of that, much like Lil Ones, it simply does not create anything inside me. At no moment do I feel entertained. Rather, I feel profoundly bored and waiting for the next track to start up. It is a well done track with a nice beat and Future rides it well, but it feels incredibly uninspired and lazy. Slave Master: 4/10 -This one feels less lazy, but is actually worse. Bring me back to the lazy Future, please. The beat feels incredibly generic and while I like the way it sounds, I can find it in a million other tracks. It brings nothing interesting to the table. As for Future, not only is the premise stupid, equating slave masters and nice whips is beyond idiotic, but I am not a huge fan to begin with obviously. This one is no exception and though he does alright on the beat, it just does not work for me at all. Blow a Bag: 4/10 -I hate songs with repeating phrases in their hooks that really add nothing to that phrase of substance, such as can be found in this track. I also hate songs that do not ever capture my attention. This one commits both sins quite willingly and freely. Colossal: 7/10 -A dope beat that Future rides very nicely coupled with some interesting lyrics that, shocker, have some substance behind them. This one is overall a very nice change of pace content-wise and the beat still bangs, which is great. Couples both of the things I do not think are unreasonable requests and puts them together. Overall, a solid track from Future. Rich $ex: 2/10 -Good thing I wrote this one late at night, because this one damn near knocked me out. Future flow is very boring here as he kind of sings his way through it and, as evidenced by past works by him, he cannot sing to save his life. This has not changed, even if his music now has larger appeal and he has somehow pieced together a large fan base. Kudos to him, but his singing is still trash. Blood on the Money: 6/10 -This one is a step in the right direction, but is largely uninteresting and unengaging, though Future's ability really shines through on this one and the beat is very good. I really dig the hook here and its delivery, but it lacks the power of the opener and "Where Ya At". This track has flashes of those, but falls well short of them due to it just never grabbing me in the least. 61/130 -> 4.69/10 Overall, Dirty Sprite 2 is a boring album that, despite being trap, never really makes me feel engaged. With trap, a good beat is key to the quality of the song and while most of these beats are good, Future is too subdued to have any type of impact on them. I am looking for loose, care free fun. While he is just as ignorant lyrically as you need on these tracks, they are never fun and instead put me to sleep. Thankfully I did this late at night, but even through nearly double-digit listens to this one, I never got it. There is a ton of praise for this project and for Future as a whole, yet it feels as though I am the only one left on the "anti-Future" bandwagon that was created during his Pluto days. Everyone else has become huge fans of his, yet I keep listening to his projects and coming away thinking that Pluto is his best project, even if it was bad. Somehow, everything else is worse. ![]() Banned Most Hated
Wow great review there, spangles.
Maybe you could review an actual rap album instead of the pop music you always do. Here's one that would be perfect: ![]() ![]() Registered S7, S22 Challenge Cup Champion
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![]() The Weeknd - Beauty Behind the Madness</div> Real Life: 8/10 -Featuring top-notch production from The Weeknd himself, the opener on his sophomore album is not as dark or moody as his mixtape songs, but certainly captures the certain of them. Lighter in sound, but still dark in tone, this one is a very good opener that allows The Weeknd to flash his top-notch vocals and writing ability. Losers (ft. Labrinth): 5/10 -Honestly, this one feels almost more like a dance track due to the beat drop. Both The Weeknd and Labrinth are very good singers, but I do not love the subject matter of this one and do not love the beat either. I am not sure if it is because this is The Weeknd and this type of track sounds nothing like I would expect from him or what, but this one just does not sit right with me. Tell Your Friends: 6/10 -Featuring co-production from Kanye West, this one obviously caught my attention prior to my first listen. This one, however, is a mixed bag. The Weeknd's vocals are stellar and I really enjoy his verses, both lyrically and with the production. However, the beat switch for the hook just does not work for me at all. I still like the song more than I dislike it, but this one does fall short for me when I expected to love it. Often: 9/10 -Incredibly vulgar, "Often" is a classic song from The Weeknd. Just as sex and drugged up as it should be, this one takes place in a haze created by the both of them. The Weeknd flows and rides this beat brilliantly and helps to create a song that oozes with sexual energy. The first of two tracks I am surprised to see pop up on this tracklist, I am ecstatic to see it come back to life here on the album. A great song thanks to The Weeknd's vocals and the killer production, "Often" is a song that defines The Weeknd stylistically and lyrically. The Hills: 9/10 -The third official single from the album, this one is another song that fits squarely into The Weeknd's discography. Incredibly dark and moody production blends perfectly with Abel's largely dark and slow delivery of the verses. This is a track where the production and vocals blend perfectly and work together in perfect harmony. However, my favorite part is when The Weeknd ditches the low-pitch delivery and instead flexes his vocal prowess on the bridge, "Hills have eyes, the hills have eyes / Who are you to judge, who are you to judge? / Hide your lies, girl, hide your lies / Only you to trust, only you". Overall, "The Hills" is a great track. Acquainted: 10/10 -Overflowing with silky smooth sexual energy, "Acquainted" is honestly perfect. Stellar production and an A+ vocal performance from Abel almost take a backseat to pitch perfect lyrics. "Baby you're no good / Cause they warned me bout your type girl / I've been ducking left and right / Baby you're no good / Think I fell for you, I fell for you, I fell for you" and "Momma caught me cryin', cryin', cryin', cryin' / I won't find somebody that's real (she wants somebody that's real) / Cause every time I try to, try to, try to run / The fast life keeps gaining on me, shit / But ever since I met you / I couldn't believe what you did / So comfort me babe, ain't no rush from me babe" are both perfect. Honestly, this song is nearly six minutes, but it could be six hours and I would still be happy. Perfect lyrically, this one may be my favorite track on the whole project. Can’t Feel My Face: 7/10 -Hated by everyone around me for being straight pop, I still really like this song. Far from perfect, "Can't Feel My Face" is the most Michael Jackson that The Weeknd has ever gotten, aside from his cover of "DD (Dirty Diana)". Groovy and poppy without losing The Weeknd's value as an artist, this is the best radio song I can imagine coming from Abel. Plus, I have to love it because it has introduced The Weeknd to millions of listeners. If it leads to some of them investigating his past stuff and falling in love like I have, then I am incredibly pleased. Shameless: 10/10 -After "Can't Feel My Face", things do not return to being as dark sonically as they were before, but lyrically, they remain dark. This song allows Abel to showcase his incredible flow and he smoothly slides through the song like butter on toast. The beginning of this track is pure perfection, "Say it louder, say it louder / Who's gonna love you like me, like me? / Say it louder, say it louder / Who's gonna touch you like me, like me? / Ooh, said you wanna be good but you couldn't keep your composure / Ooh, said you wanna be good but you're begging me to come over / Ooh, come over / Ooh, saying who's gonna fuck you like me? Yeah". The production, along with the guitar solo, are also top-notch. This track ensures that the hit single from the album is sandwiched in between two of the best tracks this whole project has to offer. Earned It: 7/10 -Created for the Fifty Shades of Grey movie, this one was written off by many fans of The Weeknd as just being intended for the movie and that it was never going to pop up on any album of his. Well, jokes on you because here it is. A smash in a similar vein to "Can't Feel My Face", "Earned It" is far darker production-wise and has some true high points, namely the pre-hook where he croons, "So I love when you call unexpected / Cause I hate when the moment's expected / So Imma care for you, you, you / Imma care for you, you, you, you, yeah". The production is also very good, but the song does fall a bit short of the expectations that Abel has created over the past few years. But, as it stands, "Earned It" is still a very catchy and well done track that has a place in his discography. In the Night: 7/10 -One of the deeper tracks ever released by Abel, "In the Night" is not my favorite track here, but it certainly has its moments that really elevate it about some of the weaker tracks on the album. Those moments are created by the hook, "In the night she hears him calling / In the night she's dancing to relieve the pain / She'll never walk away (I don't think you understand) / In the night when she comes crawling / Dollar bills and tears keep falling down her face / She'll never walk away (I don't think you understand)". Featuring great production and lyrics in that stretch of the song, this one really peaks. The verses, while well crafted, simply do not sound quite as good as the hook. As You Are: 8/10 -Ugh this one has me feeling so conflicted. I am not digging the production here at all, but The Weeknd's vocals and lyrics are so strong that they are impossible to ignore. My least favorite production is on the hook, yet that very same chorus features my favorite lyrical section of the track, "Yeah, show me your broken heart and all your scars / Baby I'll take, I'll take, I'll take, I'll take you as you are / I'll take you as you are / Show me your broken heart to know your flaws / Baby I'll take, I'll take, I'll take, I'll take you as you are / I'll take you as you are, yeah, yeah". Really, the only moment that I love both is the outro, which is too bad that it took that long. However, the song is still a solid entry on the song that really hits some incredibly high notes that elevates it over some of the previous entries. Dark Times (ft. Ed Sheeran): 8/10 -Never really expected a collaboration between Abel and Ed Sheeran, but here it is. A certified future hit due to the way it blends both Ed and The Weeknd's styles perfectly and would be able to ride both of their collective waves, "Dark Times" is quite good. A cautionary tale told by both men about how a woman should not fall in love with them because they would only be bad for them, the track blends great vocals, good lyrics, and good production together and also provides a unique opportunity for a duet between these two. I will be shocked if they do not at least release this one as a single in the not-so-distant future. Prisoner (ft. Lana Del Rey): 9/10 -A perfect combination on paper, The Weeknd and Lana Del Rey finally hook up. At times a female version of Abel, Lana Del Rey seems like a perfect choice for a collaborator on any album. The pre-hook delivered by The Weeknd and Lana, "Maybe I’ve been always destined to end up in this place, yeah / I don't mean to come off selfish, but I want it all / Love will always be a lesson, let's get out of its way / Cause I know, all I know, all I know" is perfect. However, it almost takes a backseat to the perfect verse turned in by Lana, "I think I've been in Hollywood for too long / Cause I can feel my soul burning, feel it burning slow / But I would be nothing without the touch / I feel the rush and it's amazing". Thanks to great vocals from the duo and killer production, this one is right up there with the best songs on the album. Angel: 10/10 -"And if we're not, I hope you find somebody / I hope you find somebody, I hope you find somebody / I hope you find somebody to love, somebody to love / Somebody to love, yeah, yeah, yeah". Damn. Featuring perfect vocals and production, "Angel" is honestly the best closing track I could have imagined for the album. The uncredited vocals contributed by Maty Noyes are also pitch perfect. If you were not feeling anything from the previous 13 tracks and this one does not hit you at all, you need to check out if you actually have a heart and emotions. Beautiful, epic, and all around stellar, "Angel" is an amazing closer. 113/140 -> 8.07/10 After Kiss Land was one of my favorite projects of 2013, I was forced to watch people complain about the album and label it a step down from The Weeknd's magnificent mixtapes. While largely true, the album is still great in my mind, but there is no questioning that it is probably his weakest project. This new album corrects that as it certainly rivals his mixtapes for quality. Tracks like "Acquainted", "Shameless", and "Angel", are probably some of his most songs overall, forget this album alone. Yet, in saying that, tracks such as "Losers" and "Tell Your Friends" and probably some of the weaker songs he has released. Luckily, those are the only two missteps on the album and otherwise, the album meets my expectations and immediately becomes one of my favorite projects of 2015. ![]() Registered S1, S3, S4, S6, S13, S19 and S28 Challenge Cup Champion |
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