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*Buster* · 09-22-2012, 11:27 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Otrebor13@Sep 22 2012, 10:26 AM

My idea: Actually contribute to the discussion or don't post at all

You take this site wayyyyyyyy too seriously

*Otrebor13* · 09-22-2012, 11:29 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Buster@Sep 22 2012, 11:27 AM

You take this site wayyyyyyyy too seriously

Oh that's really not true. The problem is, once there is one off-topic comment, the whole thread becomes off-topic. So I just don't want that to happen to one of the threads which is actually being discussed. Thanks for the -rep though!

*Otrebor13* · 09-22-2012, 11:35 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Donini13@Sep 22 2012, 11:26 AM

the league is benefiting

people put in time and effort now to make bigger articles, with paycuts this big nobody will be writing big articles anymore

size of articles will go down and so will quality

I don't see how the league is benefiting really. The league doesn't really get much from 4k word articles, just shows who's active or not.

You're making it out to seem that the paycut is so drastic. Imo, the paycut SHOULD be drastic and cut down. I don't want to have juniors going into the draft with 15-20mil, is it just me? 1Mil trainings used to actually mean you were a great player and contract money helped you train +5 every week. Now, players are all doing +5 every week because of the easy way to make money. It definitely should be lowered.

You're once again looking at this from a personal gain point of view. If everyone has 15mil in the bank, contracts are useless. If contracts are useless, everyone can sign a 500k contract and join one team. One team simply dominates and everyone else is left fighting for 2nd. To me, that's not beneficial to the league, that's beneficial to you as a player who wants to make money.

The big thing you said that is completely mistaken is this: "size of articles will go down and so will quality"

This statement is VERY wrong. If people want to make more money, they'll write bigger articles. If people want to make more money, they'll write better quality articles. If anything, a paycut will encourage bigger articles and will also highly encourage quality articles. If you know you'll be graded on quality, you won't just whip up a shitty 1k article. You'll put time into it, making sure everything is fine and you'll get rewarded as such.

Stop looking at this paycut from a personal view. Look at it from the league's perspective. I think it's very much needed.

Spangle · 09-22-2012, 11:37 AM

Lol @ the league is benefitting from long ass articles nobody reads anyways.

I'd rather you write 4 1k articles than 1 4k articles because, guess what, 4 articles = more activity than 1 long article nobody reads in its entirety.

Spangle · 09-22-2012, 11:38 AM

Plus, if you want to write a 4k article, just split it into four different pieces and maximize your cash flow.

*Otrebor13* · 09-22-2012, 11:40 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Sponges@Sep 22 2012, 11:38 AM
Plus, if you want to write a 4k article, just split it into four different pieces and maximize your cash flow.

Exactly. If anything, it makes it easier to write 4 1k articles than to write 1 4k article on the same topic.

Personally, I really want to see a decline in the amount of money people make. It's getting really ridiculous and inflated. Plus, I'm tired of seeing the same 1k interview articles and everyone getting 1mil for them.

JNH · 09-22-2012, 11:45 AM

Guys plz just check out my system on the NWJHL Media (7th and 8th pages of poll) and tell me what you think

Hallsy · 09-22-2012, 11:47 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Otrebor13@Sep 22 2012, 09:29 AM

Oh that's really not true. The problem is, once there is one off-topic comment, the whole thread becomes off-topic. So I just don't want that to happen to one of the threads which is actually being discussed. Thanks for the -rep though!

I will fix that once I get home. Wink

I only have One problem with this, what about the people who don't speak english as a first language? do they get a bad grade and a low bonus compared to everyone else because they were born in Germany/sweden/etc.

12/12 should be something that doesn't get hand out everytime

*Buster* · 09-22-2012, 11:49 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Otrebor13@Sep 22 2012, 10:40 AM

Exactly. If anything, it makes it easier to write 4 1k articles than to write 1 4k article on the same topic.

Personally, I really want to see a decline in the amount of money people make. It's getting really ridiculous and inflated. [b]Plus, I'm tired of seeing the same 1k interview articles and everyone getting 1mil for them.[/b]

So you would rather see the same 10K interview articles?

*Otrebor13* · 09-22-2012, 11:55 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Buster@Sep 22 2012, 11:49 AM

So you would rather see the same 10K interview articles?

I'm saying the articles that are posted are generally always the same just to get money. If people put more time and were actually worried about quality, there would be different articles posted

Hallsy · 09-22-2012, 12:05 PM

This is how we should mark it:

Creavity of Article :
Out of 4

Spelling/Grammar
Out of 6

Look
Out of 4
Pictures, not painful to look at,etc

Times your mark out of 14 by 25K

So a 9/14 would get you 225K extra.

50K per 100 words
1000 words would get u anywhere from 500K to 850 K

MVerminski · 09-22-2012, 12:25 PM

I'm a JUNY and I'm all for this decreased pay out, and I write articles so it's not like 'm just agreeing with it because I never do media.

I think Donini is wrong. If you decrease payouts it's going to produce higher quality articles because people are going to actually try to use correct grammar and punctuation as well as write about something meaningful and interesting in order to gain that extra bonus cash.

Harry · 09-22-2012, 12:39 PM

I like the idea of lowering articles to make contracts more relavent but what I am concerned about is that GFX guys will always get extra tpe weekly while the guys that just write articles will e suffering even more now, sorry it is kinda off topic

JNH · 09-22-2012, 12:46 PM

Quote:Originally posted by MVerminski@Sep 22 2012, 11:25 AM
I'm a JUNY and I'm all for this decreased pay out, and I write articles so it's not like 'm just agreeing with it because I never do media.

I think Donini is wrong. If you decrease payouts it's going to produce higher quality articles because people are going to actually try to use correct grammar and punctuation as well as write about something meaningful and interesting in order to gain that extra bonus cash.

I think my system is pretty good because it rewards for everything so say it was a 1100 word article. In the old system that gets you 850k. In my system, for this particular article it was marked like this:

Professionalism/Thoroughness --> 8/10
Interest --> 9/10
Form --> 9/10
Word Count --> 1100

I would put comments. but I already wrote it in the other thread and I'm not gonna write it again Tongue

Formula --> Word count/1250 x Thoroughness x Interest x Form = Payment
1100/1250 x 8 x 9 x 9 = Payment
600k = Payment

So this takes a 250k pay cut and focuses less on word count and more on quality of the article. I can also award bonuses etc.

So my formula

Ask · 09-22-2012, 01:02 PM

Quote:Originally posted by Sponges@Sep 22 2012, 04:34 PM

???

If your article is good, then you get paid more than those who just bullshit articles.

Yeah I like that aspect of it. I will still make less, but I guess it's needed...
Hopefully it will increase quality and not decrease activity. Afraid it won't!

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