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Mike Izzy Code of Conduct Punishment and Appeals Result

02-06-2022, 04:31 PMWannabeFinn Wrote:
02-06-2022, 04:29 PMSkeleton Party Wrote: why force a separate post to discuss the topic of this post? the "bad vibes" happen either way.
That’s what the Thunderdome was created for. It’s meant to be where people can get their emotional shit flinging out and keep it contained to there so that we don’t have to read it in the more esteemed subforums like Announcements and SHL Media. Or something like that.

Make HO create a TD thread and link it in punishment post

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02-06-2022, 04:40 PMACapitalChicago Wrote:
02-06-2022, 04:39 PMSlashACM Wrote: There aren't two sides to every story, you're forgetting third person omniscient in which the narrator has full access to the thoughts and feelings of all characters.

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02-06-2022, 04:31 PMWannabeFinn Wrote:
02-06-2022, 04:29 PMSkeleton Party Wrote: why force a separate post to discuss the topic of this post? the "bad vibes" happen either way.
That’s what the Thunderdome was created for. It’s meant to be where people can get their emotional shit flinging out and keep it contained to there so that we don’t have to read it in the more esteemed subforums like Announcements and SHL Media. Or something like that.
there isnt a single corner of this site that could be considered esteemed i dont think

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02-06-2022, 04:52 PMboom Wrote:
02-06-2022, 04:47 PMKatth Wrote: I wasn’t going to say anything here, but here I am anyway.

The things Izzy said to HO he probably shouldn’t have said, but that’s done and he’s now punished for it.

What Izzy also did was taking Valor in when he was still GM of Calgary. Valor wanted a different environment, Izzy wanted to provide this for him. Also knowing about the mental health issues we (yes we, Izzy wasn’t alone in this) wanted to create a safe space for him and accommodate him as much as possible. We wanted things to start slow and over time give him more room when he felt comfortable. So this is where the limited discord access came into place, something which was mutually agreed on. He would start getting to know the team via the sites locker room (yes, it’s more active than SHL media) and slowly whenever he felt comfortable be a bigger part in everyday conversation. All of this was done to limit the amount of stimuli. I find it far from fair he’s being roasted about this, when people don’t even have the slightest clue what went down. His intentions to make Valor part of the team was always a positive one. Up to a point he was comfortable enough to apply for the head GM position.

For a site that always gloats about its mental health awareness you guys fucking suck hitting on a guy that’s cornered and can’t defend himself.
This would have been brought up in private when HO was discussing the punishment no? Seems to be a disconnect on what people think the punishment was for versus what it might have actually been for.

The punishment afaik is solely based on Izzy’s conversation with HO. Nothing more and nothing less.

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02-06-2022, 04:51 PMPremierBromanov Wrote:
02-06-2022, 04:32 PMNJBadApple Wrote: So you would rather consolidate & clog the punishment posts with everyone's opinions than keep it 'professional' here and keep the bullshit in the TD?  I'm not following your point here.

what's getting clogged if the alternative is to lock the thread immediately?

TD, where it should happen. Take everything and shove it in the proverbial closet and slam the door shut. Keep this area clean.

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02-06-2022, 04:49 PMunconfident69 Wrote:
02-06-2022, 04:47 PMKatth Wrote: We wanted things to start slow and over time give him more room when he felt comfortable. So this is where the limited discord access came into place, something which was mutually agreed on.
So you lied to valor about having a discord? That was the best solution you came up with? Really?

Bolded the important part for you.

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02-06-2022, 04:55 PMtrella Wrote:
02-06-2022, 04:31 PMWannabeFinn Wrote: That’s what the Thunderdome was created for. It’s meant to be where people can get their emotional shit flinging out and keep it contained to there so that we don’t have to read it in the more esteemed subforums like Announcements and SHL Media. Or something like that.
there isnt a single corner of this site that could be considered esteemed i dont think

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02-06-2022, 04:40 PMACapitalChicago Wrote:
02-06-2022, 04:39 PMSlashACM Wrote: There aren't two sides to every story, you're forgetting third person omniscient in which the narrator has full access to the thoughts and feelings of all characters.

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02-06-2022, 04:47 PMKatth Wrote: Also knowing about the mental health issues we (yes we, Izzy wasn’t alone in this) wanted to create a safe space for him and accommodate him as much as possible.

Please don’t pull me into this statement. As someone who is incredibly sentimental and personally who has struggled with severe depression paired with suicidal actions… I was absolutely not for this. I have screenshots significantly outlining my stance in conversation with Izzy from back in September.

I understand the not piling on when someone is down, but then again I’ve been on the other end of the Izzy threats on numerous occasions… I’ve been criticized for reasons we lost… my good bye was silenced and deleted in management chat… and I was verbally harassed after my departure. All of which I have documented to remind myself that that isn’t how to treat anyone here or in the real world.

My attitude towards Calgary remains unchanged. There are so many amazing users. So many that we created great friendships over. When it comes to this subject… this isn’t about Calgary… this is about standing up for behavior that is inexcusable.

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02-06-2022, 05:47 PMWally Wrote:
02-06-2022, 04:47 PMKatth Wrote: Also knowing about the mental health issues we (yes we, Izzy wasn’t alone in this) wanted to create a safe space for him and accommodate him as much as possible.

Please don’t pull me into this statement. As someone who is incredibly sentimental and personally who has struggled with severe depression paired with suicidal actions… I was absolutely not for this. I have screenshots significantly outlining my stance in conversation with Izzy from back in September.

I understand the not piling on when someone is down, but then again I’ve been on the other end of the Izzy threats on numerous occasions… I’ve been criticized for reasons we lost… my good bye was silenced and deleted  in management chat… and I was verbally harassed after my departure. All of which I have documented to remind myself that that isn’t how to treat anyone here or in the real world.

My attitude towards Calgary remains unchanged. There are so many amazing users. So many that we created great friendships over. When it comes to this subject… this isn’t about Calgary… this is about standing up for behavior that is inexcusable.

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