But I just said in the article that they aren't that active. It's not about saying that they are not active but suggesting how it would be improved and I as well said some possibilities in the articles.
And it's not only 1st overall that becomes superstars in 3 seasons, anyone can become a superstar in 3 seasons lol. Not only that, if they become a superstar for sometime in their career, the possibility is that they wont even regress at all lol. No realism. everyone is Jaromir Jagr.
What do you mean for superstar? We have like 1 PPG player per team. I count PPG players as superstars. Just 49-52 point players! We dont even have that many with 45 points, so it's not what are you saying.
Quote:Originally posted by Birks@Jul 14 2015, 01:39 PM
What do you mean for superstar? We have like 1 PPG player per team. I count PPG players as superstars. Just 49-52 point players! We dont even have that many with 45 points, so it's not what are you saying.
Superstar is anyone that achieves 90+ TPE. The same rate ovechkin/crosby would be in normal STHS.
Why would only points make you superstar.... Ice-time and chemistry is a big factor, and even more. if you are a 90+ in everything and you don't have that much ice time of course you are not going to score PPG.
The super star term here isn't the same as NHL term and shouldn't be.
If you go play NHL STHS vs SHL STHS, you can see the ratings are very different and SHL is way more top heavy.
I definitely see merits to both sites. I agree with stud, though, about the PT systems. I greatly prefer the VHL's. Though, as he said, there's a LOT more activity here.
Basically, for me, I like the way the VHL has several things set up WAY more than the systems here, but this is the site I check regularly, and the site I care more about. And it's because of the people.
Superstar is anyone that achieves 90+ TPE. The same rate ovechkin/crosby would be in normal STHS.
Why would only points make you superstar.... Ice-time and chemistry is a big factor, and even more. if you are a 90+ in everything and you don't have that much ice time of course you are not going to score PPG.
The super star term here isn't the same as NHL term and shouldn't be.
If you go play NHL STHS vs SHL STHS, you can see the ratings are very different and SHL is way more top heavy.
Okay, I understand now. I thought with superstar you are thinking guys with 50+ points. IMO SHL need the same update scale, but let us get less TPE. Maybe older player - less TPE possible per season. The second thing - Regression.
If we do what I said ^^ we easily can fix two problems.
Quote:Originally posted by Birks@Jul 14 2015, 01:47 PM
Okay, I understand now. I thought with superstar you are thinking guys with 50+ points. IMO SHL need the same update scale, but let us get less TPE. Maybe older player - less TPE possible per season. The second thing - Regression.
If we do what I said ^^ we easily can fix two problems.
Already been discussed. I wont discuss it here because it's not going to happen lol. (Can't give out less TPE suddenly, needs to be a gradual decrease, not a sudden so that the younger players gets time to adapt)
If you like the VHL over the SHL, more power to you. If you like the SHL over the VHL, that's okay too.
Not sure why one has to be compared to the other. The SHL appears to be doing incredibly well, and those who vouch for the VHL seem to think that league is doing well, so what's the issue?
It's not like there is some weird league where the VHL and SHL are competing against each other. Holy cow.
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Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Jul 14 2015, 01:52 PM Who cares?
If you like the VHL over the SHL, more power to you. If you like the SHL over the VHL, that's okay too.
Not sure why one has to be compared to the other. The SHL appears to be doing incredibly well, and those who vouch for the VHL seem to think that league is doing well, so what's the issue?
It's not like there is some weird league where the VHL and SHL are competing against each other. Holy cow.
maybe you should stop being your "holy cow", stop chewing some grass and start reading the article
Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Jul 14 2015, 01:56 PM
Sorry, I meant to focus that towards those who get offended when either league is insulted.
Read the article, and it was good.
Well I welcome people that are insulted so they can get educated about the problems of their league.
As far as seniority: I don't really think that is a big problem. For starters, recreates can have their old SHL player still playing while they get their new player up to the SHL draft. Second, as a newcomer, I would have been really annoyed if I saw older guys with a leg up on me just because they have been on the site.
I think it is important to make sure newcomers are as interested as possible, and treating them like second-class players compared to recreates doesn't make sense to me.
One thing that bugged me about the VHL was some players started out with way more TPE that I could have ever earned in juniors, which basically meant I was just hanging around waiting to get drafted to a VHL team.
Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen):
2nd in Goals (208), All-Time Assists Leader (765)*, All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587), All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)* *All-Time Leader Among All Skaters Player Profile | Update Thread
Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Jul 15 2015, 12:06 AM As far as seniority: I don't really think that is a big problem. For starters, recreates can have their old SHL player still playing while they get their new player up to the SHL draft. Second, as a newcomer, I would have been really annoyed if I saw older guys with a leg up on me just because they have been on the site.
I think it is important to make sure newcomers are as interested as possible, and treating them like second-class players compared to recreates doesn't make sense to me.
One thing that bugged me about the VHL was some players started out with way more TPE that I could have ever earned in juniors, which basically meant I was just hanging around waiting to get drafted to a VHL team.
Most of the recreates already have got money, so they can update without doing articles, but young guys need to work their ass up to get money
Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Jul 14 2015, 02:06 PM As far as seniority: I don't really think that is a big problem. For starters, recreates can have their old SHL player still playing while they get their new player up to the SHL draft. Second, as a newcomer, I would have been really annoyed if I saw older guys with a leg up on me just because they have been on the site.
I think it is important to make sure newcomers are as interested as possible, and treating them like second-class players compared to recreates doesn't make sense to me.
One thing that bugged me about the VHL was some players started out with way more TPE that I could have ever earned in juniors, which basically meant I was just hanging around waiting to get drafted to a VHL team.
The point of keeping TPE is so that players have more incentive to retire. And for new players, I don't think they should be annoyed. 50 TPE out of 1000 is just 5% of the total TPE given to the old player... that is nowhere impactful at all.
The point of keeping TPE is so that players have more incentive to retire. And for new players, I don't think they should be annoyed. 50 TPE out of 1000 is just 5% of the total TPE given to the old player... that is nowhere impactful at all.
If it is only 50 TPE, how much of an incentive is it to retire?
I just feel like newcomers should be the big focus in juniors, as they are the ones we want to keep coming back. Those who recreate and are former actives don't really need to be advertised to come back. There is a reason they were active in the first place.
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