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Schultzy · 01-17-2017, 09:47 PM

Quote:Originally posted by Tomen@Jan 17 2017, 08:06 PM

<a href='index.php?showuser=881' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-13'>Muerto</a> Made an announcement that you can only earn/claim TPE from tasks which were done AFTER the creation of your player.
Link to that announcement : [b]HERE[/b]

Which doesn't apply in this case. That statement was in regards to members who were completing an SMJHL PT without an SMJHL player. They only had an SHL player and thus were not eligible. This situation is entirely different.

BigTittySmitty · 01-17-2017, 09:55 PM

Quote:Originally posted by Schultzy@Jan 17 2017, 08:47 PM

Which doesn't apply in this case. That statement was in regards to members who were completing an SMJHL PT without an SMJHL player. They only had an SHL player and thus were not eligible. This situation is entirely different.

But, if they only had an SHL player they weren't eligible for the Jr PTs then... so how were the updaters giving them the TPE? I think I know who this is referring to but not 100% sure

Sorator · 01-18-2017, 05:49 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Schultzy+Jan 17 2017, 07:47 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1' id='QUOTE-WRAP'><tr><td>QUOTE (Schultzy @ Jan 17 2017, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Which doesn't apply in this case. That statement was in regards to members who were completing an SMJHL PT without an SMJHL player. They only had an SHL player and thus were not eligible. This situation is entirely different.[/b]

Ehhh...

Quote:They may do any and all Point Tasks *from the time of creation*. This means they don't get to claim mock draft or IP thread PT points. They know this and have accepted this.

The situation that was responding to may have been different, but with the way it's written, it [i]would cover this situation as well. Season predictions are a PT. You did that PT before your new player was created. Thus, you can't claim that TPE on your new player.

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No. It's specifically for new players to help them out.[/quote]
That's a grey area with the way this is written, since as Schultzy said, it's not available to all incoming players. You could write in something like "Tasks for first-generation players are an exception and are always available to those players," if you wanted to be super-clear. (That'd cover My First PT and the Welcome to the League survey.)

Or you could remove the "or that are unavailable to other incoming players" bit - I'm not sure that's needed.

By the way, I know <a href='index.php?showuser=2005' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-56'>CRUTCHFIELD</a> has done some IP threads before creating his new player; this would prevent him from claiming that TPE. Could change it to something like "If your player is created after the deadline for a task, you cannot earn TPE for that task" to allow folks like crutch to do IP threads and such before creating their player as long as they still do create their player before the draft, if you want to allow that.

.bojo · 01-18-2017, 08:54 AM

It's not a gray area. It's the only exception to the rule that has been in place for a while. We're only making the rule official now.

Schultzy · 01-18-2017, 09:01 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Sorator@Jan 18 2017, 04:49 AM

Ehhh...

The situation that was responding to may have been different, but with the way it's written, it would cover this situation as well. Season predictions are a PT. You did that PT before your new player was created. Thus, you can't claim that TPE on your new player.

This is a complete failure to understand the facts of the situation. :facepalm: I don't expect you to understand it but I would appreciate it if you stop making shit up.

Vik · 01-18-2017, 09:08 AM

Getting heated over something that seemed so cut and dry

Phobospwns · 01-18-2017, 09:18 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Jakub@Jan 18 2017, 08:08 AM
Getting heated over something that seemed so cut and dry

You expected anything less? I mean come on man, this is the SHL!

Schultzy · 01-18-2017, 09:20 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Jakub@Jan 18 2017, 08:08 AM
Getting heated over something that seemed so cut and dry

Been a long week of people lying about me day after day. It gets frustrating. <_<

Possum Queen · 01-18-2017, 09:29 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Schultzy@Jan 18 2017, 08:20 AM

Been a long week of people lying about me day after day.  It gets frustrating.  <_<

Hey guys, I heard <a href='index.php?showuser=537' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-8'>Schultzy</a> puts prunes on his pizza

Schultzy · 01-18-2017, 09:30 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Tanner@Jan 18 2017, 08:29 AM

Hey guys, I heard <a href='index.php?showuser=537' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-8'>Schultzy</a> puts prunes on his pizza

100% true. Keeps me regularly grumpy

Merica · 01-18-2017, 09:35 AM

Quote:Originally posted by iOBESE@Jan 17 2017, 08:04 PM
I remember that in my draft class there was one of the deprolables who retired his player on, lets say, Monday, started to do PT's and training, AC on Thrusday, but created the new player on next Monday, but still tried to take the points for the last week although his new player was not made yet. Do not recall how that went, but there should also be a rule that you can start doing any PTE earnings only when your new player is made.

He was not able to claim that TPE.

crutch · 01-18-2017, 09:59 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Sorator@Jan 18 2017, 02:49 AM

By the way, I know <a href='index.php?showuser=2005' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-56'>CRUTCHFIELD</a> has done some IP threads before creating his new player; this would prevent him from claiming that TPE. Could change it to something like "If your player is created after the deadline for a task, you cannot earn TPE for that task" to allow folks like crutch to do IP threads and such before creating their player as long as they still do create their player before the draft, if you want to allow that.

To be fair, the PT for interested prospects isn't even up yet so it's not a big deal. If I lose out on that TPE I'm not really too worried about it. Me filling out IP threads was more to let gms know I'm interested in playing for their team and to open up the lines of communication

prettyburn · 01-18-2017, 10:16 AM

Quote:Originally posted by Sorator@Jan 18 2017, 04:49 AM
That's a grey area with the way this is written, since as Schultzy said, it's not available to all incoming players. You could write in something like "Tasks for first-generation players are an exception and are always available to those players," if you wanted to be super-clear. (That'd cover My First PT and the Welcome to the League survey.)

Or you could remove the "or that are unavailable to other incoming players" bit - I'm not sure that's needed.

This rule specifically says " that are unavailable to other incoming players may not be used for the recreated player" so I think we're good. New players are, by definition, not recreates.

Merica · 01-18-2017, 03:45 PM

Quote:Originally posted by CRUTCHFIELD@Jan 18 2017, 08:59 AM

To be fair, the PT for interested prospects isn't even up yet so it's not a big deal. If I lose out on that TPE I'm not really too worried about it. Me filling out IP threads was more to let gms know I'm interested in playing for their team and to open up the lines of communication

You will be able to claim the TPE.

1) the PT hasn't even started yet
2) All you have to do is recreate before the PT ends
3) if it becomes a fucking issue like everything does here, just delete your IP post and re-post after you create the player.

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