Quote:Originally posted by BeanSobie@Jul 14 2015, 04:43 PM
I was asked to show a way to earn 12+ TPE in a week. +7 uncapped for the sims, add on your additional +8 standard (media 6, training 1, short article 1) and you are at an easy 15 TPE for the week. I did what I was asked.
Quote:Originally posted by C.J.@Jul 14 2015, 07:44 PM
The x3 Doubled PT's for all new members. (36 TPE)
VHLM Training Camp (10 TPE)
Member Survey (5 TPE)
That would have you up to 51 TPE within three weeks. Add in the Rookie Profile and Bio and you could be at 69 TPE, and that's without the VHLM Practice Facility.
I feel if someone explained it right to you, you'd understand it. But I find sometimes people have someone recruit them on sites (VHL and SHL) that simply want to get them there, they don't put in the effort to help them understand how to load up right away.
I did all of this. I "loaded up". Look at the disparity between the old guys and the new (fun game, guess where the recreates end and the true rookies start):
Quote:Originally posted by BeanSobie@Jul 14 2015, 04:49 PM
I did all of this. I "loaded up". Look at the disparity between the old guys and the new (fun game, guess where the recreates end and the true rookies start):
It's a circle jerk for old members.
Keep in mind you're in a draft class with a large majority of re-creates. Five very prominent recreates are actually below your player as well. With a Biography left undone as well. I see your point and I don't disagree with it.
The VHL has discussed many times the recreate bonus and all that, at one time it was based on a percentage that featured no Carryover CAP. That has changed. However, is their a suggestion you have for players carryover? Because if it's to abolish it totally, any league would lose a lot of long term members.
Quote:Originally posted by C.J.@Jul 14 2015, 04:54 PM
Keep in mind you're in a draft class with a large majority of re-creates. Five very prominent recreates are actually below your player as well. With a Biography left undone as well. I see your point and I don't disagree with it.
The VHL has discussed many times the recreate bonus and all that, at one time it was based on a percentage that featured no Carryover CAP. That has changed. However, is their a suggestion you have for players carryover? Because if it's to abolish it totally, any league would lose a lot of long term members.
VHL just needs to lower their incentives pretty much because of the method to acquire TPE is very scarce in addition to that their update scale is smaller.
Also if they remove job TPE from that calculation or maybe just reduce its impact vs the non-job TPE, I think it would be fair for ALL the members. not just the ones with jobs.
VHL just needs to lower their incentives pretty much because of the method to acquire TPE is very scarce in addition to that their update scale is smaller.
Also if they remove job TPE from that calculation or maybe just reduce its impact vs the non-job TPE, I think it would be fair for ALL the members. not just the ones with jobs.
Do you mean lower the incentive to recreate? In turn lower the percentage they can take with them when they re-create?
Remove job TPE, what would be the incentive to have a job then? Money is dealt with differently in the VHL than it is in the SHL.
Quote:Originally posted by C.J.@Jul 14 2015, 05:03 PM
Do you mean lower the incentive to recreate? In turn lower the percentage they can take with them when they re-create?
Remove job TPE, what would be the incentive to have a job then? Money is dealt with differently in the VHL than it is in the SHL.
Lower the amount of TPE they can retain for their new player.
Well they will still get the TPE for their player but the TPE they got from the job TPE will carry over less to new player.
So forexample they get 7 TPE for simming, if they recreate the TPE for non job would be 3% of the total TPE earned but the job TPE would only be 1% of the TPE earned.
Old player would still get 7 TPE
new player will get 1% of that.
if they only simmed for one week.
Quote:Originally posted by C.J.@Jul 14 2015, 07:44 PM
The x3 Doubled PT's for all new members. (36 TPE)
VHLM Training Camp (10 TPE)
Member Survey (5 TPE)
That would have you up to 51 TPE within three weeks. Add in the Rookie Profile and Bio and you could be at 69 TPE, and that's without the VHLM Practice Facility.
I feel if someone explained it right to you, you'd understand it. But I find sometimes people have someone recruit them on sites (VHL and SHL) that simply want to get them there, they don't put in the effort to help them understand how to load up right away.
I forgot about those things.
Even when I did that stuff I am pretty sure I was still way far back of the recreates. And that was with earning 9 TPE each week.
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That's really not what you asked. But more importantly, it is not really the point. People were preaching that if a newcommer works hard they can be just as good as the recreates in their class and that is really just a lie. There are incentives for sure for newcommers sure, but don't ignore the recreate incentives.
Lower the amount of TPE they can retain for their new player.
Well they will still get the TPE for their player but the TPE they got from the job TPE will carry over less to new player.
So forexample they get 7 TPE for simming, if they recreate the TPE for non job would be 3% of the total TPE earned but the job TPE would only be 1% of the TPE earned.
Old player would still get 7 TPE
new player will get 1% of that.
if they only simmed for one week.
Keeping track of job TPE in an 8 year career though is rather nitpicky. They don't even do that here with cash. (Yes I know it doesn't carryover)
I should mentioned Simming for 7 TPE is in place of an article or anything, so that's a poor example.
Here is what I gathered from the example:
6 TPE per week for Media Spot
2 TPE for Updating etc... JOB
When career is done, you get 3% of the TPE earned by Media Spots and 1% of TPE earned from Jobs.
So if a player had an 8 year career (9 PT/Job weeks) he would have:
Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Jul 14 2015, 08:10 PM
I forgot about those things.
Even when I did that stuff I am pretty sure I was still way far back of the recreates. And that was with earning 9 TPE each week.
Keep in mind with that chart of incentives you were shown, the 36 for double media posts includes the 18 from the 3 weeks of Perfect PTs. That incentive really isn't that great.
Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Jul 14 2015, 05:10 PM
I forgot about those things.
Even when I did that stuff I am pretty sure I was still way far back of the recreates. And that was with earning 9 TPE each week.
As the OP describes, gaining a job "should be easy" and I'd say he is right, it should be and is easier. So earning 10 TPE a week in the VHLM can happen, not saying it always does.
But when it comes to jobs people can't be totally shocked. No league wants to reward someone a job if they don't know them or they are simply unproven.
I think this turned into a VHL bashing (constructively) and that's not what the OP was intending I don't think.
Quote:Originally posted by BeanSobie@Jul 14 2015, 05:15 PM
Keep in mind with that chart of incentives you were shown, the 36 for double media posts includes the 18 from the 3 weeks of Perfect PTs. That incentive really isn't that great.
Go suggest something then, no one stopping anyone from speaking up over there. All the talk over here is great, but if you don't speak up where you don't agree, then it won't be looked at.
Quote:Originally posted by C.J.@Jul 14 2015, 05:13 PM
Keeping track of job TPE in an 8 year career though is rather nitpicky. They don't even do that here with cash. (Yes I know it doesn't carryover)
I should mentioned Simming for 7 TPE is in place of an article or anything, so that's a poor example.
Here is what I gathered from the example:
6 TPE per week for Media Spot
2 TPE for Updating etc... JOB
When career is done, you get 3% of the TPE earned by Media Spots and 1% of TPE earned from Jobs.
So if a player had an 8 year career (9 PT/Job weeks) he would have:
yep 14 tpe. The number can be adjusted though. I just dont wanna do the math but the general idea is that job and nonjob tpe have different percentage.
And could also do weighed or non-weighed.
If the 7 TPE simmer is in place for article. then they aren't allowed to do article and I think that would totally be fine (they earn an extra tpe than non-simmers). That can be let go for it not having harsher carryover. i think that's fine imo.
2 TPE for a job isn't also a problem as long as it's limited to 1 job per VHLer i guess. (though I know that might be impossible because of the amount of members that they have)
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