Eggy216
Quote: Originally posted by Grapehead @Dec 7 2016, 11:03 AMThere should be some balance but perhaps treated more as a loose cap rather than a hard and fast rule. The scoring is skewed by these players taking crazy amounts of ice time.
We're not in a new scoring era because of sliders/simmers. . .if anything we're in a new scoring era because so many players are getting overplayed and scoring previously unheard of totals because of it.
prettyburn
I'd be okay with an upper limit cap but I don't think a lower limit is necessary.
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Yeah 6 forwards getting 50% icetime is not okay. Regardless of available actives on a team. Your telling me on a team they would play their top 6 forwards for most likely (including special teams play) over 40+ minutes a game? While the bottom 6 could potentially see less than 20 mins? (most likely 15 with PP and PK factored in).
That's not right by any standards to be honest....
Why not go, hey! I want my rookie to win RoTY. Lets play said rookies 50% of 5 on 5 time plus 70% PP time. Might as well then.
I don't think it's necessary and it would be too hard and complicated to control anyway. Forcing people to give playing time to a completely inactive 4th line doesn't help anyone either, if anything it further helps the teams that are already stacked.
Eggy216
Quote: Originally posted by RomanesEuntDomus @Dec 7 2016, 11:13 AMI don't think it's necessary and it would be too hard and complicated to control anyway. Forcing people to give playing time to a completely inactive 4th line doesn't help anyone either, if anything it further helps the teams that are already stacked.
If teams were running 9 forwards I'd agree with you, but when teams are giving 6 players 50% of ice time that's insane.
Boomcheck
Don't limit defernse? idk cuz in the nhl they log pretty heavy mins 2
my problem is the forwards, they doing goofy shit.
Forward mins should be somewhere like 23.5-25ish like .. at max fr
Suspend the coach/GM's player for x amount of games if a forward passes a certain set ATOI by the end of the season.
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Allen
Please point to me some numbers being produced that are unrealistic. Give examples
Please.
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Quote: Originally posted by Allen @Dec 7 2016, 10:26 AM
i'm not your bitch, go look in the damn page.
Allen
Quote: Originally posted by Bojo @Dec 7 2016, 10:27 AM
Desired % =\= actual
Saying someone should get 50% ice time does not mean they will. Past examples of inflated TOI, please. Or are we just making up an issue because we feel like it?
Quote: Originally posted by Eggy216 @Dec 7 2016, 04:16 PM
Can't we manage fatigue through the sliders?
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Quote: Originally posted by Allen @Dec 7 2016, 10:30 AM
that's the point of the thread to find out if it's an issue or not.
I guess we can use this sim today as an example for your case.
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Quote: Originally posted by RomanesEuntDomus @Dec 7 2016, 09:34 AM
My convo with SimonT on trying to adjust sliders for fatigue and injuries:
Sent: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:54 pm
by mpc
I don't know if you've answered this somewhere, but I'm trying to see if there's a way to turn on day-to-day fatigue and still have no injuries. When the injury slider is set to 0 and Durability is set to 99, no player would get injured, correct? In a Create a Plaer league like ours, injuries kill activity, but we also have a problem of no true fatigue/endurance. Any suggestions with slider adjustments?
Sent: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:10 pm
by SimonT
Sorry but what you are trying to do against the idea of the function. The goal of fatigue is to injured players so they don’t play too much in 1 game.
Sent: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:08 am
by mpc
I guess my question is, even though it is against the idea of fatigue, would effectively limiting injuries with 99 DU and 1 Injury provide a no-injury league with fatigue being a factor?
Sent: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:36 pm
by SimonT
Sorry but I don't understand your last question. But I can tell you the answer is probably no. Fatigue is means to come with injury. There is no way around it.
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